Re: Heston's speech

From: Neal Blaikie (
Date: Wed Feb 21 2001 - 18:10:34 MST

Michael Lorrey wrote:

> > Hey, Brian, can you define what you mean by "other side"? And why this
> > obsession with sides? How does this fit in with "onward and upward"? I
> > see conflicting viewpoints being embraced here.
> The 'other side' has no interest in 'onward and upward'. They want
> 'backward and down': primitivist tyranny. O & E is an extropic ideal,
> not an entropic one.

Right. My point exactly. Given this, how do old guard pundits like Heston
and Limbaugh fit into this? They are status quo maintainers who only care
about keeping what is theirs or what they perceive to be theirs. Just
because their rhetoric sometimes coincides with some of the libertarian
values espoused here, it doesn't make them in any way extropian. And I
would say the same thing about anyone on the "left" who is not forward

It reminds me of that tired old axiom, "The enemy of my enemy is my
friend." Uh huh. Sure. Until you threaten them somehow.

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