Re: No Federal parole

From: Michael Lorrey (
Date: Thu Feb 01 2001 - 13:52:38 MST

"Ross A. Finlayson" wrote:
> KPJ wrote:
> > The term "poisoned" often implies that the person has ingested a poison.
> > The definition you used above makes the concept "poisoned" a less meaningful
> > one. Or maybe you try to make a political statement on the badness of giving
> > a subject a substance without their consent?
> >
> > By your definition above, if you administer any kind of medication to an
> > unconscious, you either poison that human, or that human lost its citizenship
> > with its consciousness, both rather uncommon standpoints.
> >
> I think if it's administered under the Hippocratic oath or similar moral and
> ethical standards, that's different. Administering emergency medicine to save the
> life of another when they would otherwise die against their will is only
> admirable.

So administering LSD or other drugs to reprogram an incorrigible capital
murderer/serial killer so that they can be rehabilitated would be more
acceptable than executing them? When the alternative is execution,
re-programming is a decent alternative.

> >
> > I understand that humans in some jurisdictions temporarily lose their
> > rights when convicted for a crime, so in those jurisdictions you would
> > find it acceptable to perform that kind of re-programming, then?
> >
> It is an ambiguous term. From watching the television show "Cops", I have watched
> that television show. Some police use immediate intimidation regularly. I do
> some business with sheriff's departments. If a violent drunk has started a fight
> and continues, he should be subdued non-chemically and placed in a holding van or
> cell. The police can carry tasers to incapacitate anyone, almost regardless of
> whether they are on PCP.
> Citizens have rights with regards to anyone trying to "reprogram" them.

But felons are effectively 'non-citizens' in many respects. Until a
felon is judged fit to return to society, judged to be willing and able
to participate as law abiding citizens, they shouldn't be reintroduced
into that society. Perhaps 'reprogramming' would be acceptable to you if
it were merely a choice a prisoner could make as an alternative to
remaining in prison?

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