Re: Surveillance

From: Zero Powers (
Date: Wed Mar 29 2000 - 22:21:26 MST

>From: Spike Jones <>
>Zero Powers wrote:
> > I also propose that the transparency be mutual and two-way, such that
> > anytime I access any information about you, you can automatically be
> > notified of (a) what information I got about you, (b) when I got it, (c)
> > I got it, (d) who I am, and (e) whatever information I got about you...
>Hey Zero, man, this is good stuff, well thought out. I volunteer to
>sign up for your mutually transparent society. I am studying David
>Brin's book currently and find myself right in step with him. If I
>want to read a good rebuttal, what should I be studying? spike

I don't know. To be honest I was surprised to find that folks like Brin had
been thinking seriously about this kind of stuff (I thought it was just me).
  I am almost finished with Brin's book now. Should be finished with it
tonight. If anybody knows of any other books on this subject (David are you
listening?) I'd appreciate the heads up.

Spike I'm also enjoying Brin's book. But he seems to waffle over whether he
thinks complete transparency is a good idea, which makes me think that maybe
I am a little bit too extremist in my own views. Oh well, wasn't there a
thread around here lately about value of extremists? :)


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