Re: Surveilance was: Transhuman fascists?

From: Zero Powers (
Date: Wed Mar 29 2000 - 13:30:43 MST

>From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <>

> > Exactly! What you're talking about is certainly not ubiquitous
> > transparency, in fact it is not even close. As you point out,
> > governments thrive on *secrecy*. Mutual, power proportional
> > effectively brings and *end* to secrecy. Ergo...
>According to Soviet archives, at the height of its power, the KGB employed
>1 in
>5 citizens as informants. They HAD a ubiquitous system. It was used more
>effectively by an organization that could collect, filter, and analyse the
>information the best (i.e. the KGB), than by the average person.

Right, and their biggest and best weapon was S-E-C-R-E-C-Y. The government
mined data about its populace but made almost no data about the government
available. This is what you get at the polar opposite of what I propose.


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