Re: cancer rates (was: e: How do you calm down the hot-heads?)

From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Sun Sep 14 2003 - 15:26:41 MDT

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    On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, Robbie Lindauer wrote:

    > My point is simply that to reduce the overall amount of carcinogens and
    > known toxins in our environment is a GOOD IDEA if we want to extend our
    > lives and our chances for survival. I still don't see why this is even
    > slightly controversial.

    Ah, but as the saying goes, "there's the rub". I don't have any problem
    with the removal of mutagenic substances generally deemed universally
    harmful. Asbestos might be a good example. But with many other toxic
    substances the level to which one "should" be exposed (to maintain optimal
    defense mechanisms) is genome specific. So exposure levels that help one
    person in terms of extending lives might actually harm someone else.

    So long as we continue to remove pollutants from our environment and
    cancer rates continue to decline I think we are on the right track.
    (Though it takes some time (decades) for the epidemiology to provide
    good indicators for this.) You can see this playing out currently
    in lawsuits against IBM for exposing semiconductor workers to hazardous
    chemicals about 15 years ago. But I'm somewhat doubtful that a
    "zero" exposure rule would be the best strategy for the average
    individual.

    Ultimately one needs to look at each carcinogen, its mechanism of action
    and then have a good feeling for how it interacts with the detoxification
    gene set (as well as the DNA repair set, the nutrient absorption gene set
    and probably other gene sets) of the "average" individual. Ultimately one
    has to come back to the idea that "all persons are created equal" and
    realize that it simply isn't true -- so one has to give up rational
    principles that are based on that idea.

    Robert



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