From: Robbie Lindauer (robblin@thetip.org)
Date: Wed Sep 10 2003 - 11:20:06 MDT
> ### Yes. See http://www.techcentralstation.com/090803C.html,
> especially the
> references to Nike.
Non-responsive. Nike is both famous for running sweatshops which
perpetuate poverty and lying about it.
Lies will not help you here.
>> What's the mechanism by which this happens exactly? Can you site any
>> historical precedent?
>
> ### Free market. Poland in 1970-95, even more so later on. USA at the
> beginning of the century, industrialization by Ford, GM, etc. Etc.
> etc. etc.
Mechanism, think physical "follow the path of resources." Your
historical precedence is ridiculous. Laughable, really. How do THEY
show that it happens?
> Why would you like to reduce incentives to invest by individuals of
> limited
> means, thereby reducing economic growth, and harming everybody?
Clearly stated above. Read better. Capitalism causes inhumane
situations, the LLC is the vehicle by which it does it.
> ### Yes. By increasing the flow of capital to the mud huts.
>
> (This is not meant as a snub - I actually mean exactly what I wrote.
> The
> easier it is to invest, the more competition there is for workers, and
> the
> better wages ensue)
You mean keeping them in their mud huts? What USUALLY happens is the
peasants revolt and are put-down occasionally by their
capitalist-funded leaders. At least, this is how it works in Burma.
> ### Thanks to the flow of capital, the percentage of children playing
> in pee
> has been steadily decreasing. The world is actually getting better
> every
> day.
Where do you get your stats?
Here's a good place to start: http://corporatism.tripod.com/poverty.htm
As a matter of fact, poverty is up worldwide.
>> Do you seriously think that we're going to run out of poor countries
>> in which workers can be exploited?
>
> ### Yes. The world will be getting better in the future, too.
"There is a sucker, born every minute" - Barnum
Rhetorical questions to which I know the answer. Do you?
What is the current population of the earth?
What percentage are "poor"?
Has that changed significantly over time?
______________________________________________
Personal questions directed to the point:
Rafal, are you a multi-millionaire?
Do you want to be?
How do you think someone like you could accumulate the effective labor
of lots of other people without actually performing that labor yourself?
If you are a multi-millionaire:
How will you continue to benefit from your economic status without
continuing to keep other people working for you?
How will you keep them working for you if it's not in their best
interest?
Best,
robbie lindauer
thetip.org
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