From: Robbie Lindauer (robblin@thetip.org)
Date: Sat Aug 30 2003 - 15:47:04 MDT
On Saturday, August 30, 2003, at 11:23 AM, Spike wrote:
> Not necessarily, Robbie. The actual causalty count from that
> initial bombing was remarkably light.
How many people is it okay to kill for no apparent reason?
"We don't do body counts," - Gen. Tommy Franks.
The latest number from: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ is Min 6118, max
7836 CIVILIANS. Granted, that's not 6 million Jews. What I'm
objecting to is the "RA RA - yippee, death from above!" routine.
"Precision Bombing" is a funny group of words when put next to "Shock
and Awe" - did we just go over there and do a nice fireworks show for
people? google: "Mother of all bombs". We couldn't use nukes,
obviously, so instead we come up with THIS.
> I fear we will see a
> murderous tit-for-tat in the middle east, one holy
> site after another blown to bits, a clear expression of
> homicidal Muslim self-hatred.
You think that the US occupation of Iraq and support for Israel's
occupation of the West Bank has nothing to do with this? That somehow
it's THEIR FAULT? That's called blaming the victim.
If you look at the material underpinnings, you would see the necessity
of the war and of the backlash. We need their oil (for now), if it
becomes expensive, we take it because it's better for the
military-industrial complex in the long run to have wars and take oil
rather than pay for it. With oil reserves running visibly low (most
aggressive estimate I've heard is 17 years of oil left), it's no
surprise that we're very very interested in the large oil producers
right now.
Best,
Robbie
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