From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rafal@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Thu Aug 28 2003 - 10:17:22 MDT
Robbie wrote:
>>> If you think it's sophistry, try to rewrite human morality without
>>> bravery and say genuinely to yourself that you want to want THAT.
>
>> ### I'd perfectly satisfied with a world without a single brave
>> person, if bravery means willing to die for a cause. Hot-heads are a
>> nuisance. Competent performance of contracts is all I would ask for.
>
> Then you have a world full of cowards.
>
> I hope you can see why this is unrealistic. In a world full of
> cowards, evil brave people take advantage.
### A coward is a person who does not fulfill expectations it terms of the
willingness to face danger, including a failure to perform according to
previously assumed obligations. A world of persons who fulfill contracts
would not be a world of cowards.
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>
> Only the honorable, genuinely brave people provide a reasonable
> defense against the evil brave.
>
### Only the calm, smart, relentlessly rational, long-term thinkers are a
defense against the brave, the stupid and the good-intentioned. Such people
will assume risks according to a rational analysis of possible outcomes,
design societies and themselves by recourse to game theory, ruthlessly
destroy defectors and face death if needed - but only if needed.
The brave will run headlong into battle as soon as some manipulative
politico pushes his "special cause" buttons - mostly tribal loyalty, and
fear of the unknown.
Death to the brave!
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>
> If you'd like a world in which people come together to jointly improve
> their world, promote bravery and goodness.
>
### No, I run scared of bravery and goodness.
Whenever you project the outcome of "goodness" far enough into the future,
it becomes either identical with self-interest (however defined), or else
descends into incoherence. Calm rationality, and a long-term outlook are all
we need to make the best world there can be.
Rafal
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