RE: Electric bicycles

From: Emlyn O'regan (oregan.emlyn@healthsolve.com.au)
Date: Wed Aug 27 2003 - 18:10:06 MDT

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    I have an engine which I add to a normal bike. See it here...
    http://www.zapworld.com/dx.htm

    I bought it a few years back. It's required no maintenance, and I've moved
    it across about 5 different bikes now I think.

    It's range is not too bad under ideal conditions; one lead-acid battery
    (From website... BATTERY: Sealed, maintenance-free, lead acid dry-cell
    twelve volt, 20 amp-hr battery is approximately 7" x 7" x 3" and weighs
    about 12.5 pounds) will keep me going for about half an hour of riding. If
    there are some hills, it'll be juiced more quickly. In a very hilly,
    bike-unfriendly region, it's hopeless (so I couldn't use it when I lived in
    the adelaide hills).

    In the wet, it's range can just about halve, because of poor traction
    between the spindle and the tyre (you have to clamp it down tighter, which
    increases friction I think). I've been experiencing that a lot lately, but I
    think with some adjustment of the placement of the engine I can fix it
    somewhat.

    As to speed, check the URL above. All I know is, it'll accelerate me very
    quickly (with a bit of pedalling added in), and get me to a speed I'd get to
    by pedalling pretty hard at fairly high gearing; quite fast. Also note it is
    addive, so your pedalling adds to it, which is excellent. You can work at a
    fairly lasy rate, putting in a little effort, and pass the spandex clad
    cycle nazis, which is funny. It's almost silent and pretty unobtrusive, so
    people don't notice it until you show it to them.

    A couple of years ago, I used to ride an hour to work, and took a second
    battery with me (using both up on the trip). Those things are heavy! Now my
    trip is twenty minutes to half an hour, so it's just perfect.

    The best thing about it is that it's not technically a motor vehicle, so
    I've got no registration costs, insurance, or much in the way of regulations
    besides having to wear a helmet. I can use bike paths (which are through
    very pretty parkland) instead of congested roads.

    I have a "third wheel" (a long bar which joins to the seat pole and has
    another seat, set of pedals, and back wheel, turns you into an articulated
    tandem) which I use to take my three year old to child care, all of which is
    heavy (third wheel + boy who doesn't pedal), but the engine sorts that out.

    I think some of the purpose built electric bikes might be more efficient
    than the engine kits like mine; I test drove one a few years back that
    looked like a vesper with pedals. My only problem with those is that I think
    they are perceived more as a motor vehicle than a bicycle (and then you may
    as well get a motorbike).

    But I just noticed what I *really* want for my bike; a VTOL kit from
    Moller...
    http://www.zapworld.com/news/mollerzap.htm

    Emlyn

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: bill@wkidston.freeserve.co.uk
    > [mailto:bill@wkidston.freeserve.co.uk]
    > Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:05 AM
    > To: extropians@extropy.org
    > Subject: Electric bicycles
    >
    >
    > On Wed Aug 27, 2003 03:14 am Jeff Davis wrote:
    > > What's the speed and range on that thing? I've always
    > > like the idea of the bicycle as an electric vehicle.
    > > It's the minimalist/leanest solution to the motorized
    > > transport formula because of the way that chassis
    > > weight, cabin weight, battery weight, engine weight,
    > > and passenger weight all feed back into one another
    > > making rapid rate of weight increase a problem with
    > > individual motorized passenger transport. The range
    > > dependence on heavy batteries is a killer.
    > >
    >
    > Electric bikes seem to be getting rather popular.
    > "In 1998, worldwide sales of electric bicycles exceeded $200 million,
    > making it the most viable of all consumer EV markets, as well
    > as one of
    > the fastest growing transportation markets today. Market analysis
    > suggests that the demand has grown to more than 100,000 units
    > annually."
    >
    > Google on 'electric bicycle' and you get lots of places you
    > can buy them.
    >
    > The Alternative Fuels Data Center has a page on them:
    > http://www.afdc.doe.gov/afv/bikes.html
    >
    > The US Department of Energy has a comparative table with all the data
    > you want. See:
    > http://www.ccities.doe.gov/vbg/progs/search_type.cgi?7
    >
    > I would expect them, like electric cars, to be more popular in a warm
    > climate like California or Florida.
    >
    > (I can't see a Texan riding one - where would the bull-horns go?)
    >
    >
    > BillK
    >
    >



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