From: Spike (spike66@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Aug 25 2003 - 21:58:04 MDT
From: Adrian Tymes
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/energyresources/message/40473
...The problem with things like this is, they assume data
that's mostly been false, but is hard to disprove...
I second that, Adrian.
...For instance, stating that economically viable natural
gas deposits are mostly exhausted...
Of course, as prices go up, economically viable sources
magically appear. I grow so very weary of the nattering
nabobs of negativity. A hydrocarbon shortage
would not stop economic growth, it would stimulate it.
In the U.S. and much of Europe, manufacturing is
outsourced to cheaper places, and now we are outsourcing
software as quickly as we can write specifications.
Much of our "industry" is involved in redistributing the
wealth already created instead of creating more, examples
being the lawsuit industry and the real estate industry.
If we had an industry which creates wealth and cannot
be outsourced, such as blanketing the west with
solar cells, windmills and the infrastructure to
distribute all that free clean power, the economy
would be stimulated to the verge of orgasm.
...Or more simply: bluntly stating that wind and solar
can not, under any conditions, "replace even a portion
of hydrocarbon energy" - despite the fact that they
quite evidently have provided power that, had these technologies never
been invented, would come from other sources, presumably including
hydrocarbon energy.
I don't know how many times I've seen this argument
before. I don't know how many times I'll see it
again...
To state that wind power cannot replace hydrocarbon
burning is simply absurd. We really can do it all with
renewables: wind, water and sun. Sure it would require
a lot of costly infrastructure, but that is the beauty
of capitalism: it gets things done. Right now, so much
of our capital is idle, doing nothing but bidding up
the prices of each other's homes to absurd levels, such
as those seen in the Sillyclone Valley. Let's cut that
nonsense and build something!
...Still, there are some truths here, especially the bit
about transmission capability not being built...
So lets build it. The only thing holding this
world back is that there is still way too much
oil, coal and gas in the ground that needs to
be burned up. spike
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