Re: How do you calm down the hot-heads? / Death meme

From: ankara@baynet.net
Date: Sat Aug 23 2003 - 12:14:07 MDT

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    Hello Robert,

    Thank you for reading, responding.

    Uploading, yes. But first need to refine/isolate the essential element
    of the 'stuff' to be uploaded. Matter transmutation: Not merely
    changing state: becoming something new. For example, Could body be to
    consciousness->'stuff' as uranium is to radium-> helium?

    Current 'reality'? You mean the life-death encapsulated event
    assumptions: the rigidly narrow 'moment of death,' 'moment of birth'
    memes? Human gestation takes a minimum of 18 months - 9 inside, 9
    onside and then some. If life-death transitions are on a continuum over
    time, then might uploading be similar? Could uploading be occurring all
    the time? Could uploading efficiency and intensity increase between
    those persons who are most alike? As in 'like attracts like'? And the
    'meeting of minds'?

    Of what 'stuff' dreams are made? Have our ancestors already been
    uploaded into us? If we can tune into that 'stuff' will we see so far
    back, we'll see Death dancing on the winds of time like an impotent
    buffoon?

    ~ankara
    Trust no assumption.

      "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com>
    >> Isn't there a difference between believing [in death]
    > This sounds like the "Leon Kass" position -- i.e. people *should* die.
    >
    >> and the awareness of it?
    > This sounds like the everyone else who has had someone close to them
    > die.
    > (Death, currently, is part of reality.)
    >
    >> Wouldn't the absence of an awareness of death seem like immortality?
    > Perhaps, but it is hard to maintain that lack of awareness at this time
    > unless you are very very young.
    >
    >> Why can't we construct a better matter transmutation?
    > If I understand this statement properly, I have toyed with this idea.
    > It would be the ability to leave behind and make available to others
    > all of ones knowledge, experiences and history separately from ones
    > spirit,
    > consciousness or free will. It is kind of like bequeathing "What you
    > are" but not "Who you are". I would tend to view this as a reasonably
    > extropic action, particularly if the technology were available to allow
    > anyone to pick up the information base. But I think that requires
    > individuals
    > in an uploaded form and we don't know yet if that is really possible.
    >
    > Robert

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