Re: the silence

From: Brett Paatsch (bpaatsch@bigpond.net.au)
Date: Fri Aug 22 2003 - 00:01:36 MDT

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    It might be deep contemplation Damien, but in my case it's
    just plain fatigue after 6 days of interstate conferences and
    sorting through the accumulated email aftermath.

    Russell Evermore was right, 6 days away from a net
    connection can leave one feeling sort of disabled. Time for
    even this small t technophile to invest in net enabled laptop.
    I reckon I should be able to pick up a serviceable unit for
    around Aus$1500.

    Interesting things biotech conferences. The AusBiotech 2003
    one I just attended in Adelaide is Australia's equivalent to
    Bio (in the US) but scaled. Emphasis is on networking,
    and the business side of biotech, but nano is sneaking in.

    In these "mainstream" industry conferences the assumptions
    about 8 - 12 years to run drugs through clinical trials and
    that IP regimes will not be changing radically or quickly seem
    to be almost universally assumed.

    I wonder why there is such a wide difference between the
    rates of change expected by scientists and commercialisers
    in forums like the one I just attended and the folks on this
    list many of whom I also know are well informed about
    multiple areas of technology?

    I think there are perhaps two reasons. First, the "mainstream"
    although deeper in their areas of knowledge are conservative
    in their public statements to others outside their areas of
    expertise (but these expectations of relatively slow change
    can and quite probably will if not challenged become self
    fulfilling prophecies) and the second, is that, imo, the average
    extrope/transhumanist list frequenter is perhaps more
    appreciative of the possible synergies between technologies
    such as biotech, infotech (including AI) and nanotech, perhaps
    because some are not working in particular knowledge silos as
    specialists, yet on the other hand by not being in the specialist
    silos many may also underestimate how hard it is to accelerate
    the changes in the areas of law (IP, legislation, contractual deal
    making) and politics.

    Expectations of the rate of change built into planning schemes
    by scientists, government planners, venture capitalists etc
    all go towards imposing something of an upper speed limit
    as well as a lower speed limit. I think there is truth in the notion
    that it is difficult to hold off an idea whose time has come but
    it also seems true that that idea or memeset can be substantially
    held back as well at least for a time.

    Poor old Ben Franklin if I recall correctly mused about the
    possibility of preserving people (himself included presumably)
    in pickle barrels. Now there was a bright guy. How easy it is
    for time (centuries and generations to flit past) and for even the
    brightest and sometimes most lively flames amongst us to be
    snuffed out. Poor Yorrick.

    The conference did feature some real sexy stuff by a materials
    physicist from the Max Planck institute in Stuttgart Germany
    showing (his computer modelling) on how nanotubes should
    be able to be used to load dna molecules and then transform
    them electrostatically. The nanotubes themselves are altered
    by a charge in various places and the dna apparently just
    screws itself in.

    Regards,
    Brett

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Damien Broderick" <damienb@unimelb.edu.au>
    To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:28 PM
    Subject: the silence

    > Once again, almost total silence falls upon the list. So far today I've
    > received instead, 24 virus-laden spam mails. I wonder if that might have
    > something to do with it. Or has everyone stalked off in sympathy with the
    > Expelled?
    >
    > Hello? Hello?
    >
    > < waves piteously >
    >
    >



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