RE: FWD [forteana] Health Care: USA, Iraq & Canada

From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rafal@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Wed Aug 13 2003 - 10:28:43 MDT

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    Randy wrote:
    > Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal@smigrodzki.org> said:
    >
    >> Mitch wrote:
    >>
    >> My guess is there will be new laws, limiting the off-shoring
    >>> of jobs, limiting the importation of H1-B's and L2's.
    >>>
    >>> Opinions?
    >>
    >> ### Oh, so you don't want me here? You don't want to have a doctor
    >> willing to work for less and be just as good as the locals (by
    >> standardized tests)?
    >>
    >> I can tell you one thing - America needs me more than you think.
    >>
    >> If America heeds you call to squish competition, one day you will be
    >> a broken old man, in a government-run nursing home, in an economy
    >> shattered by trade wars, with your "maximum wages" all eaten up by
    >> inflation, and the local unionized doc will be our of your financial
    >> reach. There will be no H-1B nurses willing to come in and wipe your
    >> feces.
    >
    > I am quite we have discussed this before, Rafal. You have of course
    > used an ancient debating tactic here: seize upon one good argument,
    > and try to apply to different areas.

    ### Yes, this is a good one, isn't it? :-)

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    >
    > I myself and I am sure many other socalled "dirty rotten commie pinko
    > protectionists" has said that some medical specialties are just too
    > important to restrict.

    ### Of course.

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    >
    > As I have said before, I favor the unfettered import of all doctors we
    > possibly can get. Of course, the doctors have organized far more than
    > the programmers, et al, and have raised the standard for foreign
    > doctors (making them get a higher score on a test than American
    > doctors), so as to restrict the supply.

    ### You know I agree with you here. These are illegitimate restrictions of
    trade, harming all Americans, except for a few fat-cat old docs.

    I also think that programming, transcriptionists, gardeners, and burger
    flippers are too important to be restricted. You see, I think that doctors
    are not in any way different from other professions in terms of importance,
    so it makes sense to treat everybody like doctors.

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    >
    > A few genuine *scientists* are another case of a common good. Of
    > course, globalist dogma says if A is good, then B-Z is also good. So
    > now we are lowering our standard of living because of a flood of
    > legal and illegal foreign labor.
    > And now we have our own govt facilitating job outsourcing.

    ### So how much poorer did you, the average American, become in material
    terms (stock options excluded) in these years of relentless assault from
    abroad? The SUV's and homes are getting bigger and bigger, soon the
    impoverished Americans will have to build wider roads to accommodate them.

    You will need to import a lot of poor people to build them for you.

    Rafal



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