RE: FWD [forteana] Health Care: USA, Iraq & Canada

From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rafal@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Tue Aug 12 2003 - 16:17:02 MDT

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    Robbie Lindauer wrote:
    >>> Inane corporate drivel. It's agreed that if a company makes money
    >>> in one country they should abide by the rules of that country. Just
    >>> because you can purchase slave-labour in burma doesn't mean that all
    >>> people should allow themselves to be enslaved. Supporting
    >>> slave-labour or poverty-labour in other countries is extremely
    >>> inhumane and our government inasmuch as it has any purpose at all,
    >>> should be simply to make sure that our people do not become
    >>> enslaved or nearly-enslaved.
    >>>
    >> ### Inane commie drivel.
    >>
    >> Rafal
    >>
    >
    > "For the people by the people"
    >
    > Love it or leave it.
    >
    ### I notice you have a penchant for starting your posts with a contemptuous
    dismissal of your adversary's opinion, followed by reasoning which doesn't
    convince me. If I had the patience of an angel, I would refrain from
    adjusting my argumentation to your style (as I did in "Inane commie drivel")
    and would start the arduous task of explaining exactly what is so
    unconvincing in your post. However, I don't have this useful character
    trait. My imperfection.

    But, since I already started answering you:

    I know that you know that nobody is purchasing slave labor in the global
    economy. It is an effective argumentative ploy to redefine the meanings of
    words (in the spirit of Newspeak), so that your enemy can be spit upon with
    greater conviction. So you call Nike a slave-driver, although you know very
    well that Nike could not be classified as a slave-owner, or purchaser of
    slave-labor, by any stretch of imagination. You know that instead of
    enslaving people, the global economy makes them graduate from the wretchedly
    poor, to merely poor, or from poor to low-class affluence. I don't know why
    you make your argument against giving low-paying work to the destitute, but
    it's clear that you are trying to manipulate definitions to elicit emotional
    reactions which could make simpler minds follow your lead.

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    >
    >> Concentrate on creating wealth,
    >> not righting wrongs, and all wrongs will right themselves.
    >
    > Talk about wishful thinking.
    >
    > Rafal thinks that concentrating on cornering the market in orange
    > juice and pork-belly futures will help wrongs right themselves?

    ### You seem to misunderstand the phrase "creating wealth" and confuse it
    with amassing monetary resources.

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    >
    > Do you think that creating a noncompetitive global banking system
    > might be useful in this regard too?
    >
    ### You would need to pose the question with more detail.

    Rafal



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