From: Randy S (cryofan@mylinuxisp.com)
Date: Tue Aug 12 2003 - 12:39:39 MDT
Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal@smigrodzki.org> said:
> Randy wrote:
> >
> > I hope that others are coming around to seeing our nation as a
> > jointly owned property around an unwritten contract exists. The
> > parties to this contract are the citizens of this nation. Non
> > citizens are NOT parties to this particular contract. In part, the
> > contract holds that the citizens must compete with each other for
> > whatever benefits are to be had from citizenship. Non citizens may
> > not compete for the benefits of citizenship, unless they "buy in" in
> > a sufficient amount.
> >
> ### I see communitarian thinking, in-group protection, outgroup bashing
> here. Where is the Extropian content?
>
> Would you deny me, Rafal Smigrodzki, a productive non-citizen, the benefit
> (or maybe the right?) of bargaining for a mutually beneficial exchange of
> services with American citizens?
How about if you and I and several other business partners develop a product,
then you turn around and sell the trade secrets relating to the product to a
competitor. You make out big time and I lose out big time. Oh wait, I forgot--
because the competitor did not have to spend the money and time to develop
the product (just the money he gave you), he can sell the product more
cheaply than our company would have. Less development expenses, etc.
And now, you say, in reply, I (and the other partners) can buy that product
more cheaply than before. If I can make enough at Walmart to buy the product,
of course.
Gee, business partner, please don't do me any more "favors."
Of course, not to put too fine a point (guess I do have to do that...), as an
analogy, we Americans and our ancestors built this country into a place with
tremendous competitive advantages: we as voters control and have exclusive
labor market access to the biggest consumer market ever. That means that we
can charge far more when we sell our labor here in the USA to labor buyers
who want to sell products to this enormous consumer market. Compare to third
worlders, for example.
Or, at least we SHOULD have exclusive labor market access. Instead, those
entities who BUY labor have convinced us that by giving up this exclusive
labor market access, we can get those products more cheaply. That is, if we
can save enough at Walmart to buy the product.
The way they go at it is by dividing the populace/business partners: make
them think it will always happen to that mythical "other guy." The only
ramifications to "me" will be lower cost.
Gee, "business partner," please don't do me any more "favors."
-- -------------- -Randy
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