Re: FWD [forteana] Health Care: USA, Iraq & Canada

From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Sat Aug 09 2003 - 17:59:49 MDT

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    Jeff Davis:
    <<It's interesting how free-enterprise slash unfettered
    capitalism slash free-marketeers suddenly change their
    tune when the "downturn in the business cycle" hits
    them personally.  If a conservative is a liberal who's
    been mugged, then a born again liberal is a
    conservative who's been "downsized".  However, I'm not
    here to gloat or do the "I told you so" dance.  >>

    Dance away, because pragmatism, or qualia is what makes things real.
    Economics or energy research, should be pragmatic, or perhaps utilitarian.

    Jeff Davis:
    <<Regarding the idea that managers are somehow unworthy
    because they run businesses but rarely build them: it
    seems entirely reasonable to me that these are two
    different specialties, running vs building.  At least
    that's a theory I've heard somewhere.  Why not?  And
    those skilled at one may not be as skilled at the
    other.  >>

    The person who has made me aware of this condition is a lifelong small
    businessman, and this guy is, by most terms, successful financially. The two skills
    seem to be needed because otherwise we get this Mary Antionette mentality
    where one feels they can eternally get away with fiddling with other people's
    money. No retribution happens, so this encourages the greediest, not necessarilly
    the most inventive and productive. To be able to manage and grow a company are
    the same skills, because both are 80% people skills. Ass-licking, and
    spouting propaganda speeches seem to be what the Fart-500 corp schmucks do 75% of the
    time. Its sickening, and destructive, because their perceptions are so
    narrow, as to not see how their offshoring idiocies (for example) will eventually
    undermine their companies. Those that have some awareness, appear to plan for
    taking a golden parachute out before the shit hits the fan.



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