Re: searching for alien life

From: Jeff Davis (jrd1415@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Aug 06 2003 - 01:38:39 MDT

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    --- Kevin Freels <megaquark@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > One of the pre-requisites they seem to be searching
    > for are planets that exist in a "zone" where there
    > could be liquid water.
    >
    > Now I am not a physicist, but doesn't the fluidity
    > of water depend on more than jus tthe distance from
    > it's star and the heat from it

    <snip>

    > It seems to me that the people conducting these
    > searches are limiting themselves by putting a
    > "habitable" zone around a star.

    Righto!, Kevin. There are all manner of unwarranted
    assumptions going around, by people with very pinched
    imagination, about the "requirements" for life.

    In Thomas Gold's The Deep Hot Biosphere

    http://people.cornell.edu/pages/tg21/DHB.html

    he writes:

    There are strong indications that microbial life is
    widespread at depth in the crust of the Earth, just as
    such life has been identified in numerous ocean vents.
    This life is not dependent on solar energy and
    photosynthesis for its primary energy supply, and it
    is essentially independent of the surface
    circumstances. Its energy supply comes from chemical
    sources,...

    and

    Subsurface life may be widespread among the planetary
    bodies of our solar system, since many of them have
    equally suitable conditions below, while having
    totally inhospitable surfaces. One may even speculate
    that such life may be widely disseminated in the
    universe, since planetary type bodies with similar
    sub-surface conditions may be common as solitary
    objects in space, as well as in other solar-type
    systems.

    and

    ...the "ocean vents", found first in some small
    regions of the ocean floor, but now found to be
    widespread (2), proved to have an energy supply for
    its life that was totally independent of sunlight and
    all surface energy sources. There the energy for life
    was derived from chemical processes,...

    and

    It may be that we shall find a simple general rule to
    apply: that microbial life exists in all the locations
    where microbes can survive; that would mean all the
    locations that have a chemical energy supply and that
    are at a temperature below the maximum one to which
    microbes can adapt.

    and

    The other planetary bodies in our solar system do not
    have favorable circumstances for **surface** life.

    but

    Many planetary bodies will have temperature and
    pressure regimes in their interiors that would allow
    liquid water to exist.

    and

    The surface life on the Earth, based on photosynthesis
    for its overall energy supply, may be just one strange
    branch of life, an adaptation specific to a planet
    that happened to have such favorable circumstances on
    its surface as would occur only very rarely...

    The deep, chemically supplied life, however, may be
    very common in the universe.

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    Read the entire piece for the full story. Great fun.

    Best, Jeff Davis

    "When I am working on a problem I never think about
    beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem.
    But when I have finished, if the solution is not
    beautiful, I know it is wrong."
                          - Buckminster Fuller

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