Re: Power from human blood

From: Adrian Tymes (wingcat@pacbell.net)
Date: Tue Aug 05 2003 - 17:50:11 MDT

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    --- Anders Sandberg <asa@nada.kth.se> wrote:
    > > >I wonder if this research can lead into
    > > >the electricity in -> ATP/Glucose out.
    > > >People powering PDAs with a little blood
    > > >or spit is cute, people running on electricity
    > > >no farms, no food, no obesity, etc would be
    > revolutionary.
    [snip]
    > Clearly we need more than energy to function. We
    > need nutrients to
    > build new protein and lipids for various functions,
    > replacements for
    > lost molecules and of course lots of water.
    [snip]
    > So in the end the device might be less useful than
    > it seems. If it
    > nanofactures other nutrients, e.g. from recycled
    > waste, then it
    > would be more useful.

    Which in theory wouldn't be too hard to do, although
    it might still require pills (proteins can be
    nanofactured; raw elements like sodium can not). The
    practical problem is finding the exact balance of
    said nutrients. It's not completely understood even
    in the general population, and it tends to change
    from person to person and in the same person (time of
    day - for some, caffiene in the morning but not at
    night - or extra vitamin C upon significant levels of
    viruses in the blood).

    That's probably the major research block.
    Nanofacturing proteins can be done with cloned human
    tissue - sealed inside the device if there is any
    question of biocompatibility, and possibly needing
    replacement every ten years or so. Then again, if
    you're accepting service appointments for the body,
    then assuming 50% efficiency at producing energy as
    glucose from electricity, how much does a
    (100*(1/.5)*24*365=)1752 kWh set of batteries weigh,
    and how practical would it be to leave such in a body
    for a year? Assuming some people couldn't be trusted
    to recharge themselves, or the battery was not
    rechargeable for some reason. I suspect time-release
    capsules of non-nanofacturable elements sufficient
    for a year would less than double the battery's
    weight and bulk, although water consumption would
    still be necessary: storage for a year would be
    prohibitively massive, construction would require a
    source of hydrogen, and absorption of water vapor
    likely would not produce enough for all-environment
    use.



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