Re: Meta-Foxes (was: Fermi Paradox)

From: Robin Hanson (rhanson@gmu.edu)
Date: Sat Jul 26 2003 - 15:16:10 MDT

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    On 7/26/2003 Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:
    >>Imagine a field full of slow plump rabbits, munching on grass.
    >>Imagine a fox sitting ... meta-foxes ... who only eat foxes.
    >
    >I'm not sure I understand the analogy.
    >My guess: We're the fox, the rabbits are the uneaten stars we see all
    >around us, and the metafoxes are the supposed destroyers of colonizers?

    Yup, that's the idea.

    >If so, then the scenario constrains its supporter to postulate an Exotic
    >Meta-Fox Motive: Eat Only Foxes. ...

    I don't think evolutionary stories can be built on motives. We would want
    a story about why such motives arose and continue be selected for relative
    to alternatives.

    Steve Witham wrote:
    >My assumption is that a metafox can invisibly eat a fox,
    >but trying to eat rabbits (planets) is such a large-scale
    >activity that it makes you visible (i.e. a fox).

    I don't see why this would be so, at least per "pound of flesh" or per
    useful units acquired. If anything I'd think it would be the other way
    around; foxes could make a lot of noise while they struggle for their life.

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