Re: Robotic nation

From: Dennis Fantoni (df@tdc-broadband.dk)
Date: Thu Jul 24 2003 - 10:42:32 MDT

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    My first thoughts was along the lines that once not so long ago, 80% of all
    jobs were in agriculture. I must admint that i fail to see 80% unemployment
    today, now machines have taken over allmost all agriculture work, and I also
    must admit that those having the lowest paid jobs today get much more and
    are much wealthier than those having the lowest paid jobs then.

    So.. if robots come take 50 million of the most boring jobs, everyone should
    get a big lift in wealth, like the lift we got when we stopped working in
    the fields with no machines. I'm not sure why it is so, but it seems that
    every time we invent a machine to do 100 men's jobs, everyone, including the
    100 men are better off after a few years. The total productivity of every
    person rises, and i think this in the end is what is the deciding factor
    regarding how wealthy we are. The more wealthy we are as a group, the more
    we are able to take on jobs that are fun, it seems.

    Someone might take their time to research this point (that historically
    automation has been leading to great wealth) (i'm sure it has been
    researched) and use it as a positive counter-example of the doom and gloom
    meme that the article supports.

    Dennis

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Alfio Puglisi" <puglisi@arcetri.astro.it>
    To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:09 PM
    Subject: RE: Robotic nation

    > On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Rafal Smigrodzki wrote:
    >
    > >Alfio wrote:
    > >> http://marshallbrain.com/robotic-nation.htm
    > >>
    > >>[...]
    > >
    > >### You might want to apply Ricardo's Law of Comparative Advantage, and
    also
    > >briefly think about the price of robots in relation to the average income
    of
    > >the unemployed. If you add these two simple considerations, you could
    > >conclude that there is no need to "deal" with any situation here, and
    > >especially not deal as in the New Deal, which resulted in losses to the
    > >economy which continue to this day. The robotic future will be many times
    > >better than you imagine, as long as you don't spoil it by "making jobs".
    >
    > Sorry if I haven't made it clear, but I think too that the author is
    > totally wrong about the issue. Only in the last paragraph there is a
    > different view than "we are all doomed". That's not enough :-)
    >
    > I posted the address since this is a front page story on Slashdot, and
    > about 500,000 people will read it in the next day or two. His pessimistic
    > views will probably gain some followers...
    >
    > Ciao,
    > Alfio
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >



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