Re: Sol-like system discovered...SETI new directions?

From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Sat Jul 12 2003 - 05:54:24 MDT

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    Just a question here: could anybody point me to the frame dragging
    explanation of galactic arms? The more I think about it, the less sense
    it does make. To my knowledge galactic arms are usually ascribed to
    waves of star formation (and the older density wave theory), not a
    general relativistic effect - if it was GR, then we would get them in
    elliptic galaxies too.

    On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 07:52:48PM -0400, ABlainey@aol.com wrote:

    > By this I mean that if you are at fixed position and you emit a beam of laser
    > light into space. The light can only travel at the speed of light (duh). Then
    > if that laser is driving a light sail craft which has attained a speed of a
    > quater the speed of light (it has been out there for quite a while). Then the
    > light sail craft can emit a beam of light forwards also at the speed of light.
    > Relative to our fixed position, this beam from the craft will be traveling at
    > 1.25 times the speed of light.

    This is not what is observed in reality.

    Velocities do not add like v3=v1+v2 in relativity, they add as
    v3=(v1+v2)/(1+v1*v2/c^2). For v1=0.25 c and v2=c, you get v3=c.

    Light *always* moves at c in relativity, that is one of the two basic
    postulates (the other one is that experiments done in inertial
    laboratories give the same results regardless of the speed of the
    laboratorium; from these two you can derive all of special relativity!).

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