From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rafal@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Mon Jul 07 2003 - 18:14:35 MDT
Lee Corbin wrote:
> Eliezer and Randall dissent from my opinion. Rebels, indeed.
>
> The first writes
>
>>> I didn't think this could be true, but it transpired this was
>>> not even exceptional. 'Oh no,' says Kay. 'The record is
>>> actually held by a female.' On and off, she spent 18 months
>>> lying on her face.
>>>
>>> ...Isn't *this* pathological? Doesn't it seem to
>>> indicate that there really is something deeply,
>>> deeply, serious wrong with this girl?
>>
>> No. It makes her a hero. I would be proud to meet her.
>
> Though I am normally of kindly disposition, for once I
> would indeed hope that this befalls you and that moreover
> you have to live with someone like that, just to know what
> it is like.
### Persons of disagreeable disposition (such as you assume this girl must
be) can be asked to leave one's house. Nobody "has" to live with someone
like that. Incarceration without crime (or maybe I should say, for the crime
of not meeting one's parents' expectations) is simply wrong.
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> Here is a true disconnect: I, as a committed non-rebel, cannot
> grok how when there is nothing important at stake, people can
> be so stubborn?
>
### Lee, I cannot fathom the disconnect between your beliefs as a
libertarian, that personal freedom and self-ownership are crucial,
unassailable rights, and your willingness to condone the most egregious
breaches of rights, if they happen to be inflicted on children. Aside from
the infamous "I-word" debate, which was somewhat academic, you actually
support a real-life example of sadistic oppression, comparable to the
brain-washing of US POW's in Vietnamese camps (minus the death/bodily harm
threat, but offset by a feeling of total abandonment, having absolutely
nobody to turn to, that the humans at Tranquility Bay must feel).
Rafal
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