RE: Investing

From: Gary Miller (garymiller@starband.net)
Date: Wed Jun 11 2003 - 13:37:51 MDT

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    >> That is, it is impossible at any time to predict whether the
    >> market is going to rise or fall.

    I believe technical traders invested based on the results of
    technical analysis which among other things calculates a variable called

    Momentum, which basicly takes into account the steepness of the
    growth/decline of a stocks value and the duration of time it has
    been increasing or declining.

    Based on what you are saying then, there would be no basis for technical

    trading on momentum!

    Technical trading can not take into account outside sudden forces such
    as terrorism, sudden technical innovation, or major media coverage which
    is where it's weakness lies.

    The reason technical trading works is due to the herd mentality of
    investors.

    Major good news cause them to stampede into a buying direction while
    major
    Bad news causes them to stampede to sell.

    Even though technical trading is more often applied to individual
    stocks. There is
    No reason that it can not be applied to to stock indexes. It may even
    be more accurate
    since you are averaging together a great more investors in the market as
    a whole.

    In our current F###ed up economy with the high level of uncertainty of
    terrorism and high unemployment the small investor may decide the only
    way to win is to not play the game.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-extropians@extropy.org [mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]
    On Behalf Of Hal Finney
    Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:53 PM
    To: extropians@extropy.org
    Subject: Re: Investing

    According to the efficient market theory, there are really no such
    things as bull and bear markets. They are optical illusions.

    That is, it is impossible at any time to predict whether the market is
    going to rise or fall. You can't say "we are in the middle of a
    bull/bear market and therefore the market is more likely than not to
    rise/fall in the next few months."

    You can only recognize bull and bear markets retroactively. When you
    see a time when prices tended to rise, you call that a bull market.
    When you see a time where prices tended to fall, you call that a bear
    market. When prices didn't have much of a trend, you'll say that was
    neither.

    So it doesn't make sense to say, buy stocks during a bull market and
    sell during a bear market. That's because it is impossible at any time
    to say what the future course of stock prices will be. All you can do
    is look back, and with the wisdom of hindsight, say that you should have
    bought here and sold there. But that's not a way to make future
    decisions.

    These observations are based both on theory and practice. I studied
    some of the academic literature several years ago, and statistically
    they found virtually no correlation between past price changes and
    future price changes.

    Hal





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