From: J Corbally (icorb@indigo.ie)
Date: Sun Jun 08 2003 - 06:40:50 MDT
>Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 19:36:05 EDT
>From: Dehede011@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Iraq] The real reason for the war
>In a message dated 6/5/2003 4:17:50 PM Central Standard Time,
>mez@apexnano.com writes: I find this suggestion amusing. As you may recall
>from our previous
>conversations on this list, I'm from the middle east, I speak arabic, and I
>spent a few weeks in the region this past December. Of course I read the
>middle eastern papers. I also keep up with the content published in the
>Arabic
>versions that doesn't show up in the English translations.
>MEZ,
>Then laugh all you want if you are amused but tell me why you are
>pushing the Arab party line instead of admitting the truth. Your people
>hate us
>because of who and what we are. They don't like our women, they don't like
>our
>men, our TV, our movies or our way of life. I have even read when they
>didn't like for men to wear our Levi's because they are too revealing
"our men"? "our women"? "our Levi's"???
"Overpaid, oversexed, and over here." Remember that one? Remember who
said it? Are you losing any sleep over it?
Even if the Arab world DID hate your people/media/clothing, so the hell
what?? 9/11 didn't happen because of an ill fitting crotch line.
On that basis, why don't you send Pat Robertson and his ilk to Guantanamo
then? Or perhaps the Southern Baptist Convention for their "women should
submit to their husbands" diatribe.
And while you're doing that, bung Mary Whitehouse in there as well.
>and they feel
>contaminated shaking the hand of one of our women in an American business
>setting.
Rubbish. Seems to me you've bought into someone elses' lie on this
point. Muslim men do not shake hands with ANY woman. They do not shake
hands with Western women. They equally do not shake hands with Muslim
women. Nothing to do with contamination. Simply culture. When I say
goodbye to my mother, I hug and kiss her on the cheek. When I say goodbye
to my Father, I hug him. Does that mean I see him as
contaminated? No. Simply a cultural distinction. Some people do no more
than shake hands with their Father. Strange to me, not so strange to
them. I think I can learn to live with that.
If you ever happen to win a Nobel prize, you will shake hands with the King
who presents them. If you meet him subsequently, you do not shake his
hand. In fact, he will refuse your gesture. This is culture, and it's
different the world over.
It's nothing to do with who or what you are. It's to do with their culture
and how we percieve it. Get over it. Get beyond it.
>Instead you want to make it sound as if we have deeply offended you on
>some deep level and that the evidence we have found is non existent.
>Heck after more than fifty years your people can't even tell the truth
>about Israel nor admit they have a right to live except at your mercy.
>Ron h.
I'm not qualified to respond to this point, and to be honest, I don't think
it needs to be dignified with one.
James...
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