From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Jun 04 2003 - 18:31:23 MDT
--- Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal@smigrodzki.org> wrote:
> Hal wrote:
>
> >
> > Deriving outlandish conclusions from plausible premises is the
> > greatest gift which we can receive from Logic. I feel that the DA
> > and SA are marvelous examples of this phenomenon.
> >
> ### Yes, exactly, they make us question our premises. Similar
> arguments let
> us deal with the simple versions of cyclic cosmologies, with Poincare
> recurrences, and give us highest quality food for thought, which is
> good for you.
>
However, I'd like to point out some misperceived conclusions. For
example, I'd agree that the odds that we live in a simulation are
undetermined. I went on to point out that given such a situation, the
only proper stance for a scientific individual at this point in time is
to be agnostic, NOT atheistic. Atheism is as much a leap of faith in
such a state of undetermined reality as religiosity. It is NO LESS a
leap of faith as well. If the argument that we live in a simulation
holds true, then atheism is a completely improper stance and
religiosity should be the norm, since the existence of a simulation
implies some meta-entity creating and/or operating the simulation.
Now, I can entirely forsee that based on this logic, individuals
determined to hold fast to their atheistic faith will try to undermine
the simulation argument, while the religious will try to support it.
IMHO this should and can be a real debate that the religious can take
part in equally, and should cast aside lots of the silly aspects of
mainstream creationism that depend on obsolete science.
=====
Mike Lorrey
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