RE: Rightness and Utility of Patriotism

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Sat Jun 21 2003 - 19:39:36 MDT

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    Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote,
    > The difficulty here stems from two different senses of the word
    > "disagreement". Ideal Bayesians who "disagree about values" still cannot
    > "disagree about facts". That is, having different values does not allow
    > ideal Bayesians to disagree about facts, including the fact of
    > who assigns
    > what values. Perhaps this means that the term "disagreement" should not
    > be used for differing values, and we should simply say that Bayesians may
    > "assign different values".

    This is an extremely important point, I think. Most of the "disagreements"
    on the list are not really disagreements. Different people have different
    data or assign different values. Most of the facts themselves are not in
    dispute. This may be the primary root of most if not all semantic
    misunderstandings. If this were recognized more often, perhaps more people
    would act in a more Bayesian manner?

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