RE: The Future of Secrecy

From: natashavita@earthlink.net
Date: Fri Jun 20 2003 - 14:38:52 MDT

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    From: Robin Hanson

    At 10:27 PM 6/19/2003 -0700, Ramez Naam wrote:
    >* - The notion of groups who are able to achieve high degrees of
    >internal transparency but are unable to achieve transparency with
    >members of other groups is actually rather disturbing. It suggests
    >the possibility of more deeply embedded tribalism among diverse future
    >entities, with all the ills that tribalism brings.

    >Even when creatures share many design elements, I expect much
    larger differences in raw abilities than among humans today. I
    expect minds to vary by many orders of magnitudes of speed, memory,
    etc, and bodies to very greatly by the environment they are most
    suited for. And minds will vary more in how much they know about
    and have specialized software for particular topics.<
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    Well said. What is missing from Ramez's scenario is the issue or talent
    of multi-tracking. Just as people today invest in relationships with
    diverse communities/groups, business affiliations, and varied social
    relationships, transparent communits will be diverse causing people to flow
    in and out of them. A tribe is pretty much segregated and usually has a
    particular belief system and leader.

    >Thus we cannot remotely hope for peace via similarity. If your
    favored route to keeping the peace today is via people noticing
    how similar people are, and using political systems that ignore
    differences, you'd better accept that this approach cannot last.
    Of course we might hope for peace via rationality and self-interest.<
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    Peace through trends in respecting differences, as well as efforts to
    resolve problems re improved upon rational on universal levels.

    Natasha

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