From: Randy S (cryofan@mylinuxisp.com)
Date: Fri Jun 20 2003 - 10:04:23 MDT
Damien Broderick <damienb@unimelb.edu.au> said:
> At 11:14 PM 6/19/03 -0700, mez wrote:
>
> >Why not bribe the politicians of developing countries to establish the
> >rule of law and clamp down on corruption?
> >Call them "Economic Leadership Grants".
>
> Here's a foolish question to which the economically-sophisticated might
> care to respond:
>
> What happens to the vast hoards of loot misappropriated by those despots,
> corrupt bureaucrats and (at last, a chance to use this word!) their ilk?
>
> I assume they don't stock their swimming pools with greenbacks and swim in
> money like Unca Scrooge.
.....<snip>
> I'm rambling, sorry. Anyone have anything definitive to add to this?
Yeah. My idea of altered immigration reciprocity could provide solutions to
many problems both for Americans who have been globalized or outsourced or
immgration-ized out of a job (Globalization-Screwed Americans (GSA's)
hereinafter), and provide solution for Third World Country (TWC, hereinafter)
citizens who see immigration as a way from them to make a life for themselves
either by immigrating, or by getting remittance money from a relative who
immigrate to America (Third-World Strivers (TWS's) hereinafter).
The fact is that America is being exploited by corporations and investors who
seek to raise profits by outsourcing labor for work related to America, or to
lowering wages by encouraging immigration both legal and illegal.
This is not the way it should be. By definition, only a small part of the
American populace can make a living through investing, seeing as how
quantities of money are relative. America should be exploited by the average
non-investing citizen. THey could exploit America by withholding for
themselves the exclusive right to work in America, save for would be
immigrants from countries where jobs would be available for Americans, e.g.,
European countries.
Immigration reciprocity is a new idea. It proposes that a country may send
immigrants to America only to the degree that Americans could immigrate
there. This idea is put forth by anti-mass immigration enthusiasts. THey
claim that it allows American pols a chance to avoid cries of racism when
clamping down on immigration.
I doubt many of you are aware of this, but it is very hard for Americans to
immigrate (or live for extended periods of time) in Third World COuntries
(TWCs). For example, you cannot move to India unless you are of Indian
heritage.
After all, fair is fair. How fair is it that many thousands of Indians can
move to the USA and make a living while I cannot move to India and make a
living?
However, why not take immigration reciprocity a step further?
Though there are not any jobs available for the **average** Americans in
Third World Countries TWC, hereinafter) (to any significant degree (do I
really have to say that? Oh, that's right. THis is the Internet)), there is
investment opportunity for **average Americans** in TWCs. $20K would go a
long way in starting a business in a TWC. And I disagree with the poster who
earlier said that lack of capital is NOT a problem for the average citizen of
a TWC. That is a BIG problem. 20K dollars is very hard to come by there. And
20K gives you a lot of power in a TWC. 20K in my bank account here makes me
no big deal. But 20K in India puts me in an elite group.
Now, as someone else pointed out, and to which I elaborated, most TWCs are
strangled by a parasitic bureaucracy. This **could** be a problem for
Americans who wanted to seize upon the opportunity to start a business in a
TWC.
But one major problem is that in order to go and live in a TWC and operate a
business, you have to have a LOT of money. For example, the threshold for
Mexico is something like $250K. OTherwise, you cannot live there and operate
a business. Other countries have other restrictions. For example, in the
Philippines, a foreigner cannot own > 50% of a business.
It is currently very hard for Americans to go to a TWC and start a business.
I think this is because American politicians only seek access to TWCs for
large corporations, and not for average Americans. THis is wrong.
But some very basic dynamics have been left out of consideration: the TWS's,
who number in the billions. The TWSs and the GSAs could be the carrot and
stick that reform the TWC countries. If the USA negotiates with the TWCs to
allow immigration access (and trade access) only if Americans can go into the
TWC and start a business with a few thousand dollars, unhamper by stifling
bureaucracy.
Immigration and trade access would be predicated on the degree to which
AMericans would be able to actually do that. If Americans complain about
being hassled by bureaucracy, then the immigration access would be cut off.
And the TWSs would hopefully see their dreams being lost and take it out on
the TWC leaders.
Obviously, the TWCs could use the infusion of dollars and know how from
average Americans who have $10-20K and want to own a business in a TWC. And
the GSA could have a lot of opportunity available for them.
Just an idea that could help GSAs and TWSs.
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