Re: The Iraq war was extropian? Re: [Iraq] The real reason for the war

From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Wed Jun 18 2003 - 14:57:28 MDT

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    On Saturday 14 June 2003 10:56, John K Clark wrote:
    > "Paul Grant" <shade999@optonline.net>
    >
    > > It [911] brought out the current policies to light, didn't it?
    >
    > If you think 911 will ever lead the American people to demand their
    > government have a more sympathetic policy toward Palestine then you must be
    > smoking some very funny cigarettes.
    >

    It had better have a more sympathetic policy. The current one is leading to
    mass oppression of the Palestinian people and occupation of their lands. We
    have supported this and attendant Israeli atrocities for far too long. We
    cannot speak for peace and justice in the region effectively without speaking
    up for the Palestinian people. Only those "smoking funny cigarrettes" could
    miss or continue to ignore something this obvious.

    > >There's documented proof all over the place of Israeli's human rights
    > >violations
    >
    > Sure there is, big deal.

    Big Deal??!!! This is the most cynical uncaring thing you could possibly say.
    It is a very big deal when a country, especially one we support, practices
    such gross violations. One of the major justifciations for the invasion of
    Iraq and outster of Saddam was his human rights violations and violations of
    UN sanctions. Israel has many times as many UN sanction violations and they
    are our good buddies that we generally can say no evil about. This is gross
    hypocrisy and no one will take our intentions toward peace in the region
    seriously as long as we continue it.

    > The world is full of injustice and every people
    > has had bad things happen to them and Palestinians are no exception, but if
    > you want to explain the unprecedented volcanic rage consuming the entire
    > Islamic world from Algeria to Indonesia you're going to have to come up

    What would you feel but rage when your people are oppressed for 50 years or a
    subset of your people are so oppressed and the nation that postures about
    human rights and freedom not only says and does nothing but supports and
    praises the oppressor? When that nation then says it has the right to
    invade a nation in the region without UN support and to attack persons,
    resources and installations in any nation that it considers a threat without
    any due process required, do you expect the people to remain calm? When
    Americans justify this behavior without for a minute seeing the other side
    should you be surprised they hold you in contempt?

    > with some unprecedented horror inflicted on all of Islam (not just the tiny
    > percentage that is Palestinian) the likes of which no other people have
    > ever
    > experienced
    > in the history of the world; and after that you need to explain why Jews
    > don't crash airliners into German skyscrapers.
    >

    No. You need to take a crash course in honest appraisal of exactly what this
    country and our good friends have been up to in the middle east. You also
    need to stop blaming the entire Arab/Muslim world for one terrorist incident.
    I have been continuously attempting to get you and others to do this for
    nearly two years and you continue to have your heads in the sand while you
    show your ass to the rest of the world. It is despicable and not the least
    extropic.

    - samantha



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