RE: META: Dishonest debate (was "cluster bombs")

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Mon Jun 16 2003 - 14:06:23 MDT

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    Hal Finney wrote,
    > It's important when dealing with emotional issues to stick to the facts.
    > We all agree that making false accusations is wrong.
    >
    > I have examined the list archives for the past year closely, searching
    > for the phrase "war crime" or "war crimes". Not once did I find anyone
    > use that term to apply to a contributor to this list. No one on this
    > mailing list has been accused of war crimes!

    Hal, I am disappointed that you did such a sloppy job searching or made a
    conclusion that I was wrong without even asking me to provide my evidence.

    It is true that the exact phrase "war crimes" was not used in the incidents
    I complained about. Try looking for people being accused of supporting
    communism, terrorism, Saddam, bin Laden, being a traitor, or giving aid and
    comfort to the enemy. These are the phrases you will find. Also look
    specifically in the threads about the Iraq war. This is where these
    accusations are being made. I can't imagine that you can read these threads
    without seeing what I am talking about. Even if you think I am
    exaggerating, you should at least locate the specific incidents in questions
    and review them before you decide that they didn't happen.

    Let me be clear. I have no objection to people debating any sides of these
    issues. But when the debate drifts from the merits of the topics involved
    to the merits of the people involved, this is unacceptable. Accusations and
    denials of political affiliation are just plain off topic here.

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