Re: META: Dishonest debate (was "cluster bombs")

From: Michael Wiik (mwiik@messagenet.com)
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 10:45:48 MDT

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    dehede011@aol.com writes:

    > Harvey, the problem is that we have been hearing that explanation since the
    > Vietnamese war. It reduces to a problem in statistics. If you have came down
    > on one side fifteen times in a row what are the odds you will favor that same
    > side the next time. After a while regardless of how you explain it you are
    > selecting the U. S. to criticize and giving comfort to its enemies by your
    > silence. All in all your explanation is sophisticated but not persuasive.
    > Ron h.

    Ron, why didn't you just tell Harvey that what he wrote doesn't pass the
    'belly laugh test'?

    What is the 'it' in 'giving comfort to its enemies'. Is it the
    geographic land mass of the U.S.? The people residing therein? The
    constitution? The government? The social fiction that folks use to
    conflate one or more of these? Are we dealing here with hallucinations,
    indwelling essences, ghosts, or what?

    If you insist that folks who criticize the administration hate America,
    and are pretty close to treasonous, would you mind if we referred to you
    as a chicken hawk war criminal?

    You know, I hear that the US troops occupying Iraq are driving up to
    towns, and searching house to house for hidden weapons. It appears some
    Iraqis are signalling their arrival to others by flickering their porch
    lights. Hmmm, citizens warning their fellows about occupying troops
    coming to search for guns, using lights.... I seem to have heard
    something similar to that before somewhere, maybe from elementary
    school.... help me out here Ron...

            -Mike

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