RE: Dollars and donuts, was: Re: Was Re: PHYSICS: force fields (RANT)

From: Paul Grant (shade999@optonline.net)
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 03:26:26 MDT

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    --- Dehede011@aol.com wrote:
    > In a message dated 6/12/2003 11:43:06 AM Central Standard Time,
    > shade999@optonline.net writes: Personally I'ld rather see the dollar
    > deflate terribly than endure MORE of my tax dollars going to patch a
    currently (and
    > inevitably) downward spiraling dollar. They could start By allowing
    other
    > currencies to be used for the purchase/sale of oil, and of course, by
    eliminating all
    > the hard-currencies flowing out of the country for drug sales. Not
    that
    > Any US politician would have the balls to do such a thing.

    They could start by letting states negotiate group rates for
    prescription drugs for their residents. As it is, more and more people
    are ordering their prescription drugs out of the country over the
    internet.

    Me: basically :)

    Keep in mind also, the Columbian cartels and the guerrilla groups that
    have many billions of dollars in the bank seem to be dumping the dollar
    as a tactic of financial combat against the backer of their enemy. This
    is becoming a pig pile tactic by many countries which import more from
    the US than they export and don't like our "we're not a punching bag
    anymore" foreign policy.

    Me: I pretty much attribute the drug war to a way to keep interest rates
    higher, and of course, establish the greenback as a world-wide currency.

    Keep in mind that deflation is not the same thing as devaluation.

    Me: Fair enough; I don't really differentiate because in my mind, the
    two are fundamentally linked. Short-term effects though, do require
    descriptive differentiation...

    Deflation is when prices decrease (normally occurs when the value of the
    dollar increases), while devaluation is when the dollar is worth less of
    competetive currencies. Most of the deflationary pressure is from
    falling energy prices (and prices that are impacted by energy prices).
    Since energy prices were previously inflated solely due to war jitters,
    this should not, IMHO, be considered a bad thing, and the deflation is
    not a sign of anything systemically wrong with the economy.

    The dollar, somewhat contradictorily, is also devaluing, mostly because
    many countries pissed at our foreign policy are changing how their own
    currencies are anchored, from a dollar standard to a euro standard. This
    also IMHO is actually a paper tiger that is more likely to help us than
    hurt us. It gives the French the false prestige they crave, while at the
    same time inflating the prices of their exports, which will negatively
    impact their economy.

    Me: Agreed regarding the devaluation of the dollar (since it is in my
    opinion, pumped up artificially).

    With decreased demand for dollars overseas, this makes our money cheap
    internationally while at the same time paradoxically of high value
    domestically.

    Me: cute, I didn't make this connection :) You're basically saying that
    more money will flood in to our country, at the same time the foreign
    imports go up in price...
    similarly, inflation will rise for domestic goods because there will be
    more money floating around, unless of course, the fed raises interest
    rates or reserve requirements...

    This can only be a good thing for the US, and will result in a return of
    many manufacturing jobs to the US, especially skilled blue collar jobs.
    Imports will decrease and exports will increase. The trade deficit, an
    artifact of our currency being the lingua franca of international
    finance, will fade from view and might even become a trade surplus. I
    predict that within a decade the US economy will resemble Japan of the
    70s and 80's. Consumer savings will skyrocket. A speculative bubble of a
    size never before seen will occur across the entire economy, which will
    last as long as people are confident that they are making rational
    decisions (and so long as the facts they are basing those decisions on
    remain accurate).

    Me: sadly, I'm just starting out in my fiscal historical analysis :) I
    don't have many years of experience watching the markets on the like;
    I can't comment...

    So, out of curiousity, what do you think about the housing market? I
    think its going to tank bigtime, but my father is of the opposite
    opinion..
    My reasoning is that fundamentally, it doesn't matter how low the market
    rates go, if people are unemployed and getting laid off. I personally
    don't think he (Bush) is going to be able to create enough jobs... I'm
    predicting there's going to be a wave of foreclosures coming within the
    next
    2-3 years... Especially given that the housing market is way
    overpriced, and anybody who still has savings is dumping it into their
    house for equity because
    the stock market is so flat, and the bond market's return is so
    neglible... My father is banking on the election year theory
    (self-explanatory).

    What's your opinion?
    omard-out

    PS> if you could send me a CC to my email account, I'ld be entirely in
    your debt;
    I won't be monitering this list-serv come tomorrow Sunday for quite some
    time...

    danke :)
    omard-out



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