From: Karen Rand Smigrodzki (Karen@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Sat Jun 14 2003 - 23:18:43 MDT
I am not sure that I agree with that. Maybe in a million years I will change
my mind. Until then, ...
karen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rafal Smigrodzki" <rafal@smigrodzki.org>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: How best to spend US$200 billion?
> Just think - the US have less freedom than the unlamented CCCP
>
> Rafal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Rand Smigrodzki" <karen@smigrodzki.org>
> To: <extropians@extropy.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: How best to spend US$200 billion?
>
>
> > The question of the right to secede has been answered in Constitutional
> law
> > since 1869 in which the US Supreme Court held that attempts to secede
from
> > the Union are unconstitutional; ratification of the Constitution was
held
> to
> > be a waiver of the right to secede.
> >
> > In regard to what Robert Bradbury mentioned:
> >
> > Article 72, Chapter 8 of the USSR Constitution of October 7, 1977,
Novosti
> > Press Agency Publishing House, Moscow (1977).
> >
> > Article 72: "Each Union Republic shall retain the right freely to secede
> > from the USSR."
> >
> > The Soviet Socialist Republics which did secede from the USSR upon its
> > disintegration are: Ukraine, Latvia, Lithunia, Estonia, Azerbaijan,
> Moldava,
> > Kazakhstan, Georgia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Krygyzstan, Armenia,
> Belarus,
> > Uzbekistan.
> >
> >
> >
> > Karen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com>
> > To: <extropians@extropy.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:08 AM
> > Subject: RE: How best to spend US$200 billion? RE: `twisted ethics
> prevalent
> > onthe extropy board'
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Paul Grant wrote:
> > >
> > > > You mean like the US federal government chose not to acknowledge
> > > > the southern states right to succede? How is that any different?
> > >
> > > Now this raises an interesting question in my mind. Does anyone
> > > know if there is a "proper" process for U.S. states to succede?
> > > Or did this just get overlooked in the process of writing the
> > > constitution? I.e. you can join, but you cannot leave.
> > > If the U.S. constitution does not have a "leaving" process,
> > > are there any countries that do? The only examples I can
> > > think of (where splits were peacefully agreed upon) are
> > > Czechoslovakia and perhaps some of the autonomous regions
> > > in the former USSR.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Karen Rand Smigrodzki
> >
> > All truth passes through three stages.
> > First, it is ridiculed.
> > Second, it is violently opposed.
> > Third, it is accepted as being self-
> > evident.
> > -Arthur Schopenhauer
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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