Re: Status of Superrationality

From: Hal Finney (hal@finney.org)
Date: Thu May 29 2003 - 11:21:54 MDT

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    Several people have objected to my reductio of the "averagist" position,
    the altruist whose goal is to maximize the average happiness of members
    of the human race.

    I have to admit that I was wrong to neglect the impact of the killing
    of half of all people on the happiness of the remainder. So my argument
    does not really work.

    However I still think there is a core of truth to what I said. Imagine a
    race of people who are, for some reason, not bothered if the averagist
    kills others. Maybe they think he is God (or maybe he actually is God)
    and so they believe that his actions are for the best. Or perhaps their
    psychology is simply radically different from ours.

    Among such people, the averagist would now proceed to kill all except one.
    It is exactly the same principle used if you were given a barrel full
    of potatoes, and told that you could remove them such that you should
    maximize the average weight of the potatoes in the barrel. The answer
    is that you just leave in the heaviest potato. In the same way, the
    averagist will kill all but the happiest person.

    I don't think most of us would agree that this is a truly altruistic
    action, even among people such as I have described, who are not bothered
    by the killing of others. Killing all but one of them is incredibly
    harmful and is not altruistic in any meaningful sense of the word.

    Therefore I still claim that averagism is not a legitimate form of
    altruism.

    Hal



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