RE: Meaning of "liberal"

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Wed May 28 2003 - 23:37:32 MDT

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    Ron writes

    > lcorbin@tsoft.com writes:
    > > Of course, Americans are not free of the same impulses by any
    > > means! I think that there was a short stretch of freeway named the "Richard M.
    > > Nixon" freeway in southern California, until the Watergate fiasco occurred, and
    > > the freeway renamed
    >
    > Lee,
    > That beats me. I can observe the socialist movement attempting to
    > relabel the Nazis and Facists as non socialist but news about the California
    > Freeway System normally isn't carried in my local papers.

    Well, they'll get up to speed eventually ;-)

    But seriously, socialists *have* seemed to be more into renaming
    things than other people are. But my conjecture still stands:
    when the socialists aren't Russian and aren't totalitarian,
    then they don't have an urge to rename everything on political
    whim that's any greater than normal.

    Olga writes

    > > Also, perhaps there is something in *totalitarian* thinking---
    > > as opposed to merely authoritarian rule---that demands that
    > > all associations with the Opposition be expunged. So if we
    > > remove the Russian and the totalitarian components of any
    > > socialist movement, does what remains have this tendency to,
    > > as you write, "relabel anything that becomes unsavory"?

    > Er ... Russian? ... er ... totalitarian? ... er ... socialist? ... er ...

    What are you driving at? ;-)

    > ... remember Enron Field?

    Hey, that's done for commercial profit $$$$ Not the same thing at all!
    So long as it's part of a wealth-creating advertising budget, I'm all
    for it!

    > > Of course, Americans are not free of the same impulses by any
    > > means! ...

    > You got that right!

    Yeah, but it's still a f****ing miracle in my book that the J. Edgar
    Hoover Building has not yet been renamed!

    Lee

    P.S. I think that there should be a written (in America) and
    and unwritten (elsewhere) rule that nothing can be named for
    anyone until they have been safely dead for 100 years.



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