RE: [POLITICS] Why People Are Irrational about Politics

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Mon May 26 2003 - 17:44:21 MDT

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    Dan (Technotranscendence) wrote

    > Abstract: [Michael Huemer] look for explanations for the phenomenon of
    > widespread, strong, and persistent disagreements about political issues.
    > The best explanation is provided by the hypothesis that most people are
    > irrational about politics and not, for example, that political issues
    > are particularly difficult or that we lack sufficient evidence for
    > resolving them. I discuss how this irrationality works and why people
    > are especially irrational about politics.
    >
    > For the full essay, see http://home.sprynet.com/~owl1/irrationality.htm
    >
    > Any thoughts?

    Yes, indeedy. I will agree that it is quite a good essay, well-written
    and easy to read, and well-informed on most points. However, the author
    in my opinion makes several errors. One is that he fails to appreciate
    how Pan Critical Rationalism explains learning and the retention of
    hypothesis (which is to say, he fails to acknowledge how conjectures
    really die). Two, he doesn't address some cases where it seems to me
    obvious that values determine some political stances, and doesn't
    find the simplest explanation for some of his examples, like, duh, look
    to the ambiguity of certain words. Three, as Harvey hinted at, he has
    a pretty expansive definition of "irrational"---but then, perhaps so
    does Robin Hanson and others (I haven't finished with their papers).
    Finally, he doesn't seem to deal too well with those interesting cases
    where it's "rational to be irrational".

    Firstly, he writes

       On the Divergent Fundamental Values theory [which I, Lee, embrace]
       we should expect prevalent political belief clusters to
       correspond to different basic moral theories. Thus there
       should be some core moral claim that unites all or most
       'liberal' political beliefs, and a different moral claim
       that unites all or most 'conservative' political beliefs.
       What underlying thesis supports the views that (a) capitalism
       is unjust, (b) abortion is permissible, (c) capital punishment
       is bad, and (d) affirmative action is just? Here I need only
       claim that these beliefs are *correlated*...

    Well, I can think of two (2) value differences that explain these
    political differences! One is that liberals rate inequality as
    much more damaging and unfair than do conservatives, and secondly
    many libertarians and conservatives (though not I, incidentally)
    consider it morally *unjust* for rich people's money or hard-
    working people's money to be taken from them by force for the sake
    of the poor. (I myself happen merely to think that it doesn't work
    out at all well to do so, even though I am a libertarian-conservative.)

    Therefore, the author has not refuted the conjecture that differing
    values are quite important in determining some political differences.

    Now consider his flawed treatment of the capital punishment question.
    He thinks that it comes down to a factual dispute, and that the
    various partisan proponents disagree over the facts about capital
    punishment:

       Those who support capital punishment are much more
       likely to believe that it has a deterrent effect,
       and that few innocent people have been executed.
       Those who oppose capital punishment tend to believe
       that it does not have a deterrent effect, and that
       many innocent people have been executed. Those are
       factual [sic] questions, and my moral values should
       not have any effect on what I think about those
       factual questions.

    But those are not EASILY RESOLVED factual questions! Even more
    importantly, consider the term "many innocent people". IMO it
    is very likely that proponents of CP and opponents of CP might
    agree on the numbers, yet still consider it to be, respectively
    "not too many" and "too many"! Duh. Why, they'll even disagree
    about whether the particular adage, "better that a thousand guilty
    men go free than one innocent man executed" is wise or not, despite
    it employing a very concrete number!

    I think I'll discuss his idea of "non-epistemic belief preferences",
    his overly small (IMO) idea of "rationality", and his failure to
    appreciate PCR in another post.

    Lee



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