Re: [POLITICS]: googling crime families

From: Dehede011@aol.com
Date: Mon May 26 2003 - 15:58:47 MDT

  • Next message: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky: "Re: [POLITICS]: googling crime families"

    In a message dated 5/26/2003 4:24:09 PM Central Standard Time, sen
    tience@pobox.com writes: I still found it fun to list some of the possible fallacies
    (statistical and otherwise) that would be involved in trying to use this result as
    evidence. How many do you count? I got seven offhand. - Eliezer S.
    Yudkowsky

    Eliezer,
           Maybe I am the humorless jerk. The references I checked all seemed to
    have a political ax to grind. I suppose it is a possible statistical fallacy
    of sorts, but I plainly remember during the Kennedy and Johnson years when my
    conservative friends used to show me pieces like what the Google search
    turned up. The difference was that instead of Bush being the whipping boy, the
    whipping boys were Kennedy-Johnson. I am saying that seems to be a function of
    who is President.
           Eliezar, I was stationed in the Bermuda Islands during parts of 1954
    and 1955. As I was in a seaplane squadron we got a round up and down the East
    Coast. That is the best and safest flying duty I can imagine. There are no
    serious weather problems except when a hurricane comes along. When that
    happens we simply left the area. At over 170 knots per hour we could outrun the
    hurricanes.
           However during that time we might have had a half dozen incidents that
    ended up in "Bermuda Triangle" books that I had personal knowledge of the
    facts. In not one case was the incident reported even half way accurately in the
    books.
           As you might guess, for me to have knowledge of so many, there is
    something I am not telling you. To get the number so high most of the reported
    incidents happened well outside the Bermuda Triangle.
           What I am hinting is that with "Presidential Crime Families" and the
    "Bermuda Triangle" there seems to be a cottage industry of unscrupulous writers
    that gin out these books and articles. There doesn't seem to be enough
    gullible readers to make those writers well to do. So I guess that is a good
    thing.
    Ron h.

    BTW, Our squadron was assigned to anti submarine warfare with Soviet subs as
    the designated bad guys. Since, it has been revealed that we had and still
    have a long range sonar that provides an underwater fence. That fence sections
    off the North Atlantic and provided such control that we were able to follow
    Soviet subs across the Atlantic a little more uncertainly than an airliner
    going across country on Instrument flight rules. One day the famous horn blew and
    the announcement, "This is not a drill" followed immediately. The duty crew
    ran for the duty airplane. A bunch of guys showed up to shove that seaplane
    over the side of the island (down a ramp) and away went the plane with bombs,
    etc., armed and ready. The stand by crew and aircraft immediately prepared to
    react if called. Word was passed around that a Soviet Sub was spotted close
    to our East Coast in an area where he was not supposed to penetrate without our
    knowing he was there. Our long range sonar had said there was no such boat.
           By and by our plane returned. We pulled it up the ramp and
    immediately fell upon our buddies in the duty crew to learn what they had discovered.
    The mysterious spotting was a drifting rowboat. We had a good laugh and forgot
    it.
           Thank God the guys that write the Bermuda Triangle books never heard
    the story or we would have an invader from Mars that morphed into a Soviet Sub
    and then into a row boat until the coast was clear. <G> On the other hand it
    might have all been part of the Eisenhower Criminal Family.



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