From: Phil Osborn (philosborn2001@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat May 17 2003 - 14:12:28 MDT
In response to From: Harvey Newstrom
(mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Fri May 16 2003 - 07:05:14 MDT
"Evidence, please? I don't recall gay activists
arguing for the right to infect innocent people or try
to kill them. Remember that I lived through
this movement you are recalling. It would be like me
telling a Viet Nam vet what really happened in the
fox-holes. Do you really believe that gay
rights advocates demanded the right to infect people
or kill people? This seems preposterous on the face of
it. I am certain that this story has been
"interpreted" from a conservative commentator. I would
sure love to see references and examine the original
source for this."
One of the local papers a few years ago interviewed
local bar patrons - non-gay bars - about whether they
would tell a sexual partner if they were HIV positive.
Most said "No." Anecdotally, I knew a young
Vietnamese guy who came to the U.S. in the early
'90's, apparently related to a GI. He had been more
or less living on the streets in Vietnam for some time
and picked up some bad habits. Once here, he
immediately got involved with the gangs, drug selling,
selling stolen phone card numbers, wrecked a whole
string of cars, knocked up a 17 yr. old Vietnamese
girl and then, after marrying her, immediately started
creating a string of girlfriends on the side, all of
which he considered normal behavior.
When the subject of AIDS and disclosure came up, his
response: ~"Hey! I know plenty people got AIDS don't
tell nobody, just have sex like everybody. No big
deal." From his defensive emotional attitude at the
time, I give a high probability to his in fact being
HIV positive himself, which might help explain why his
brother in law nearly beat him to death shortly
thereafter.
The key element here is not race, ethnicity (altho
ethnic attitudes can certainly play a major role), or
sexual preference (altho certain kinds of sex are
demonstrably a lot safer than others in terms of
disease transmission). It is the combination of
irresponsibility and promiscouity.
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