From: JAY DUGGER (duggerj1@charter.net)
Date: Sat May 17 2003 - 12:28:37 MDT
On Fri, 16 May 2003 11:05:31 -0500
Brian Atkins <brian@posthuman.com> wrote:
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>>Still here?
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>>MINOR SPOILERS:
[snip]
>> Smith has super-powers: duplication, uploading into
>>human
>>minds
>> Partial nudity
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>Hehe.. yes, everyone who hasn't seen it now thinks Smith
>has the amazing superpower of "Partial nudity" :-)
Serves 'em right for ignoring the spoiler warning,
doesn't it? Let us keep the distinction between partial
nudity and the actual superpower of "bulletproof nudity."
The latter counts as a genuine superpower in action
movies: the fewer clothes a character wears, the more
bulletproof he or she becomes. The former doesn't
generally count as a superpower--except Trinity's case.
>>SPECULATION:
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>> The easy one: all the characters exist as programs. Ever
>>notice how Neo hasn't looked at another fighter with his
>>"code vision"? Do they save this un-surprise for Matrix
>>3?
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>It's made pretty clear that he probably ONLY sees now
>using code vision. For instance, in the elevator on the
>way to see the Merovingian, he tells them the building
>looks odd and is wired with explosives. We just don't see
>whole scenes this way because it would be annoying.
I retract the point about code vision. I'd forgotten
the scene where he pulls the bullet from Trinity's
Matrix-construct. Still, I expect to find all the "humans"
actually exist as programs.
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>of the audio tracks in Reloaded), Neo has the hardware in
>his head to allow contact with the Matrix (or at least
>nearby machines) wirelessly. This explains his ability at
>the end, and maybe his dream at the beginning...
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Augmented reality doesn't seem to exist in the setting.
The gate traffic control scene would make a perfect spot
to use it, but instead it relies on virtual reality. AR
seems very foreign to most. Did Minority Report show any?
Perhaps the story saves it for later revelations.
>Why would he suddenly get access to this ability right
>when he needed it? I favor the conspiracy theory that
>someone is helping him... just like how knowledge can be
>downloaded by training programs, and like how Smith's
>data was downloaded into Bane, I think someone is feeding
>new software into Neo at certain points... once when he
>died in the first movie, and here again at some point
>after he left the architect, or perhaps earlier in the
>movie- perhaps when he almost got taken over by Smith.
>There already is prior evidence that when they trade code
>they get new abilities.
See John Barnes' Kaliedoscope Century, Candle, and The Sky
So Big and Black, for aggressive machine intelligences
running on human minds.
If the character gets new software fed into him, this
seems to support the idea he exists within another
simulation. Hmm...do we need a word to describe simulation
indistuinguishable from reality?
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>There is more evidence to support that the real world is
>really real. For one, I think Keanu Reeves said so in an
>interview. Two, I doubt the writers went to all this
Disinformation?
>trouble to set all this up and then make it mostly
>worthless. But aside from that, from the trailers I've
I don't doubt it at all.
>seen for Revolutions it appears that all of the action is
>focused on the continuing sentinel war combined with some
>action still going on in the now-crashing (apparently a
>software crash of this magnitude takes something like 24
>hrs of virtual time :-) Matrix.
I've seen no trailers for the next movie.
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