RE: Eating glycotoxins

From: gts (gts_2000@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon May 12 2003 - 19:46:13 MDT

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    Brian Atkins wrote:

    > So what's more important? Dietary content of glycotoxins, or
    > glycotoxin-promoting substances? Is it possible to come up with a
    > healthy diet that will minimize both, and also keep blood glucose and
    > insulin levels low?

    My answer to the last is of course a strict paleolithic diet (as if you
    didn't already know.:-) Meats are never cooked over an open flame. Instead
    they are broiled or boiled or cooked slowly over low heat with plenty of
    moisture and/or oils, keeping the formation of Advanced Glycation
    End-Products (AGE's) to a minimum. (LEF now calls AGE's "glycotoxins" but I
    will continue to call them AGE's as I always have.)

    Glucose and insulin are kept in check by eliminating non-paleolithic grains.
    All grain products are high-glycemic index foods. In fact the glycemic value
    of white bread is often used as the standard on the glycemic index against
    which other foods measured, equaling 100 on a scale of 0 to 100. It is
    roughly as glycemic as table sugar.

    I have a close friend who injects insulin for anti-aging purposes. He
    injects a small amount of insulin with each meal to help keep his insulin
    and blood glucose low, even though he is not diabetic. He and I debate the
    wisdom of this strategy constantly. In fact I visited him in Cancun in April
    for a week (where we both own time-shares) and we spent almost the entire
    week arguing about his theory about injecting insulin. :-) I am not yet
    convinced that his idea is a good one for non-diabetics, but it's certainly
    an interesting idea with a lot of potential. Insulin is very cheap and
    available everywhere without a prescription. (Note to the casual reader:
    don't try this at home without doing some research into proper dosages.
    Insulin can be very dangerous if not used knowledgably.)

    > Recent news says ACE inhibitor drugs help prevent glycotoxin formation,
    > and Metformin in a CR-mimic (potentially add 15 years to your life or
    > more... maybe). Anyone considering adding these into their health
    > regimen?

    Metformin (aka glucophage) has been part of my health regimen for years,
    though I am not diabetic. I also take aminoguanidine and carnosine, both to
    help prevent the formation of AGE's.

    > Any doctors known to be proscribing them for these purposes?

    Another friend of mine, Ward Dean, M.D., is an internationally known
    anti-aging doctor who recommends metformin to almost all his patients over
    age 40, mainly for purposes of enhancing insulin sensitivity. Dr. Dean is a
    regular participant in an online discussion group I manage called
    "Longevity." I do not know if he is aware of metformin's potential for
    blocking AGE's. It was not until I received this month's copy of LEF
    magazine that I even knew it had potential as an AGE inhibitor. My guess is
    that it helps only indirectly, perhaps by helping to reduce blood glucose
    and thus the glycation of hemoglobin.

    -gts



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