Re: extropians-digest V8 #128

From: Ian Reilly (ianreilly@comcast.net)
Date: Thu May 08 2003 - 19:15:42 MDT

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    > Greg Jordan wrote:
    >
    > [gts wrote:]
    > >> The hunting behavior and the suffering of the animal will
    > >> be the same regardless of the hunter's motivation. So then
    > >> if sport-hunting is evil but survival-hunting is not, then
    > >> the evil must not emanate from the act of hunting or from
    > >> the suffering of the animal. The evil must instead emanate
    > >> from the brain activity of the sport-hunter.
    > Okay, so then it appears that you agree with me that by your own
    definition,
    > the evil of sport-hunting emanates from the subjective value judgments of
    > the hunter rather than from the suffering of any animal he might hunt.
    This
    > must be so because you agree that survival-hunting is not evil.

    What about self-defence - is not "survival" hunting a form of self-defence?
    At the very least it is a mitigating circumstance - or should we throw out
    mitigating circumstances all together. That said, compassion for animals
    raised in captivity could be part of a justification for hunting which
    doesn't involve survival per se.

    > But if the evil emanates only from the sport-hunter's mind then the
    argument
    > against sport-hunting evaporates
    But if the evil emanates only from the murderer's mind then the argument
    against murder evaporates - Huh? isn't it a bit more complex than that? Is
    it the same to kill your dog, the last 2 blue whales, an ant, a bird, a
    fish, a dolphin, a bacteria, a human? By slow death, starvation, extended
    torture?
    It is not "THE" argument against sport hunting - it is a part of a web of
    multidimensional relative matrices or some such unimaginable nonsense.

    Ian



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