From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue May 06 2003 - 10:56:26 MDT
--- Greg Jordan <jordan@chuma.cas.usf.edu> wrote:
>
> The prey is not going to suffer from human hunting (pain, fear, loss
> of life, social disruption, etc.) if humans do not hunt. It may be
> that the suffering an individual animal encounters in Nature may
> turn out to be just as bad, or worse, but it is not necessarily
> so. And either way, humans are responsible for what humans do.
> Like Rafal, you are backing toward an absurdum like 'since
> everyone is going to die anyway, let's just kill one another'.
Is assisted suicide right or wrong? WHY? It is right because it reduces
the net suffering of the individual.
If hunting reduces the net suffering of an animal in the wild, then NOT
hunting is a moral wrong, and you are perpetrating evil by refusing to
act. Sins of omission are no less wrong than sins of commission.
Furthermore, if you regard the way in which domesticated farm animals
are treated as inhumane, then the reduction in commercial demand for
such animals caused by individuals hunting is also a reduction in
suffering.
>
> > If sport-hunting is evil then it must be because the neurons in the
> > hunter's brain are discharging in a certain pattern.
>
> I wouldn't think *hunters* believe hunting is evil. They think it is
> good,for a variety of reasons that make sense in their minds. We
> don't have to reduce this to discharging neurons, since the reasons
> are explicable.
No, what you are saying is that what you perceive to be a bloodthirsty
greed for taking life is an evil neural pattern just as the neural
pattern of a child molester is.
Anti-hunting advocates like to depict hunters as twisted deviants. The
facts are that hunters commit far less crime, far less violent crime,
and have far more stable families and raise better kids than
non-hunters, and unlike the popular media depiction of hunters as a
bunch of drunks in the woods, alcoholism is lower among hunters than
the general population.
> Just like the reasons of those who prefer to appreciate wild animals
> instead of hunt them.
Sadists appreciate the pain of those who suffer, but not in a way the
suffering would appreciate.
It is telling that you are so focused on this aspect and perception of hunting.
=====
Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
- Gen. John Stark
"Pacifists are Objectively Pro-Fascist." - George Orwell
"Treason doth never Prosper. What is the Reason?
For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid
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