From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon May 05 2003 - 20:02:07 MDT
--- Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com> wrote:
> > Harvey Newstrom said:
> > However, I greatly object to the /methods/ used to reach these
> > conclusions and persuade others into them. They are religious,
> > illogical, unscientific, and fraudulent. This kind of sloppy
> > reasoning, even for a correct position, ends up weakening the
> > argument, and even weakening the discussion group.
>
> But Harvey, at least this group contains enough people who are
> capable of seeing though advocacy presented as argument, and
> aren't afraid to point it out. Most of the time, such fallacies
> come for the outside--it's disheartening when they come from
> one of the group, but not really any different.
No matter who it comes from. Harvey, you are more guilty, because as we
see in your discussion with Brian, you are treating an article on the
betterhumans website as if it is a scientific study, when it is only
the interpretation of studies by scientists who had nothing to do with
them. When Brian went to the actual studies these scientists were
referring to, he determined that there was no discrimination between
fiber sources, no definition of different types of fiber based on
source, yet you are claiming that Brian is baiting and switching while
you are continuing to claim your original reference (which was based on
Brians reference) is the proper interpretation. Talk about dogmatic
orthodoxy. All hail the vegan religion...
=====
Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
- Gen. John Stark
"Pacifists are Objectively Pro-Fascist." - George Orwell
"Treason doth never Prosper. What is the Reason?
For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid
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