Re: [Politics] Re: The United Nations: Unfit to govern

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun May 04 2003 - 19:57:43 MDT

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    --- Brett Paatsch <paatschb@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    > Lee Corbin writes:
    > > Yet there comes a time when, whether it's trade negotiations or
    > > human rights issues, Americans should indeed worry about what the
    > > rest of the world will do. Allowing the French and Russians to
    > > set the standard for human rights, or allowing a lot of America-
    > > haters to weaken international trade is not in anyone's real
    > > interest.
    >
    > No one nation can set the standards to the satisfaction of the
    > nationals of a majority of other nations. This is not essentially an
    > american problem. Its a representation problem. Without the
    > UN any single powerful country disenfranchises the citizens of the
    > other countries. That is not a formula for stability or dare I say
    > "extropy".

    Nor do the French or Russians 'set the standard for human rights'. It
    is they who have voted for countries like Libya and Cuba to sit on the
    UN Human Rights Commission. If that is 'setting the standard' then the
    US has nothing to worry about. The UN is declaring its own obsolescence
    when it does this.
    >
    > >
    > > So the U.S. should continue to support the same goofy charade at
    > > the U.N., and hope that over time irrational hatreds subside and
    > > cooperativeness and genuine humanitarianism increase.
    >
    > I think the US will. I dunno whether they should. I think we are
    > looking now at some quite long time periods before international
    > cooperativeness and genuine humanitarianism increases. I hope
    > I'm wrong.

    Lets get this straight: France, Germany, and Russia NEVER had
    humanitarianism as the motive for their actions. I am sure the citizens
    of those countries thought so after their government propaganda organs
    got done with them, but propaganda does not proliferate facts. The
    facts are that they traded illegally in weapons, smuggled oil, and
    laundered money for Iraq and they opposed our invasion specifically
    because they did not want the facts to be discovered. The UN opposed
    our actions specifically because they did not want it to be discovered
    that UN inspectors have been bribed.

    =====
    Mike Lorrey
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