RE: Self Sampling Assumption (was: my objection to the Doomsday argument)

From: gts (gts_2000@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Apr 30 2003 - 08:16:32 MDT

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    Ramez Naam wrote:

    > This is an interesting example, but can you think of one more
    > realistic?

    Yes, in fact I offered another one in a message to you in the other doomsday
    thread that you started. Here it is again...

    ...The SSA does not itself seem unreasonable to me. It is defined thusly:
    "Every observer should reason as if she were a random sample from the set of
    all observers in their reference class."

    Put simply, why should you assume that your observation of any particular
    phenomenon should be different from anyone else's? For example when you do a
    statistical test on a coin to determine if the coin is fair, you assume that
    your observation of the coin's flips is a random sample of coin flip
    observations taken from the population of all possible coin flip
    observations of that coin that might be taken by all possible humans; i.e.,
    you assume that your observations are a random sample from the set of all
    observers in your reference class with regard to that coin, where your
    reference class is "humans" or "intelligent beings." If you don't make that
    assumption then you cannot say that your analysis of the coin is meaningful
    to other humans.

    We cannot speak meaningfully to one another about probabilities unless we
    all assume that our observations are not unique to our individual
    identities. In other words, we must assume your observed sequence of
    coin-flips would have been just as likely to have been observed by me or by
    anyone else who might have performed the same test on the same coin at the
    same time. This is to say, as per the SSA, that we should each reason as if
    we are random samples from the set of all observers in our reference class.

    -gts



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