Re: China v. India Space Race

From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Sun Apr 27 2003 - 11:05:25 MDT

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    Interesting thoughts, Greg. I do absolutely agree with the notion, that the
    primary element that caused the Apollo project to be cut short, was the
    withdrawal of the Soviets from the Lunar landing race. Had they continued,
    had they persevered, I guess that having a small, and temporary lunar
    research cabin, starting in the late 1970s, would have been a sure thing.
    Affording to build a large lunar research or military base would have been a
    different story. Could the technology of the time have accomplished this,
    driven by advances in computer technology, that was driven by the space race?
    It makes a person wonder, given the advances in metallurgy, atomic weapons,
    jets, radar, antibiotics, rocketry, telemetry, that the Second World War
    produced.

    As far as the intentions and behavior of the PRC, I would ask the question
    Dorothy asked upon meeting Glenda in OZ: "Are you a good witch or a bad
    witch?" The PRC is a prickly, nationalistic, jingoistic, nation-state; not
    unlike the attitude of the post 1866 Prussian ruled Reich. So much for 4000
    years of Confucian and Laotzuist tradition and philosophy. We are dealing
    with a different breed of cat. I am not sure that the Chinese, will be
    capable, anytime soon, of being interested in a group project; which in
    itself, would undercut the sought-after prestige they seem to crave. If they
    land on the moon and begin dancing on the old aluminum US Flag, that may
    indeed ignited a new space race.

    <<No, the real target for a "Chinese space race" is the U.S.  And I think
    this is a GREAT thing, since it could provide the same kind of spur to
    both sides that the Cold War rivalry did in the 1950s-1970s.  The hunger
    for a globally-visible affirmation that China has "arrived" on the world
    stage is nearly universal in that country, and this impetus provides a
    deep reservoir of support to achieve the Chinese space program's stated
    goal, which is the establishment of a permanently manned base on the
    moon within the next twenty years.

    Beyond (or beside) this, I see a potentially very favorable development
    in the possibility of inviting the Chinese to participate in the ISS
    program.  Since the Shenzhou spacecraft is just an updated Soyuz, it
    ought to be maximally compatible with the Russian elements of the
    station.  Here's my dream: The Russians carry through with their deal to
    begin launching from the ESA equatorial launch facility in South
    America, so the station can be slowly moved to a more reasonably aligned
    orbit.  Meanwhile, the Chinese begin to provide ferry and lifeboat
    service with Shenzhou flights, while at the same time working on a
    unilateral lunar program.  Wouldn't that be great?!?!

    Greg Burch
    Vice-President, Extropy Institute
    http://www.gregburch.net>>

    Greg Burch stated:



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