RE: Doomsday vs Diaspora

From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Sat Apr 26 2003 - 11:57:48 MDT

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    On 26 Apr 2003, Alejandro Dubrovsky wrote:

    > On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 05:58, Robert J. Bradbury wrote:
    > >
    > > Previously I had thought this would be impossible. An exabyte
    > > is 10^18 bytes which is a zettabit (10^21 bits). To even begin
    > > thinking about this one has to learn how to modulate a carrier
    > > of X-rays (10^18 Hz) to Gamma-rays (10^20 Hz) to carry a zettabit.
    > > That did not look like an easy task to do in a short period
    > > of time (SciFi authors get to ignore some of these more complicated
    > > details with a little hand-waving).
    > >
    > I don't think there's a need for such high frequencies. You don't have
    > to carry the whole thing in one band. Just parallelise, and use a 100 x
    > 100 array of your off-the-shelf terabit/second transmitters (nicely
    > spaced apart on a 10km on a side square so that they can be resolved
    > individually on the other side by the huge parabollic space mirror) and
    > you can do the whole thing in about 15 minutes (btw, you mangled the
    > conversion. 1 exabyte = 10^18 bytes < 10^19 bits (i think you were
    > thinking in powers of 2))

    Alejandro is right, I botched the math. So a body is ~10 exabits.
    That bumps my other numbers down by about 2 orders of magnitude
    making things a little more interesting -- body teleportation in
    ~7 hrs using 1 fs pulses and 2-4 days using 10fs pulses (today's tech).

    I have no problem with the array transmission idea -- its actually
    a requirement to fork civilizations. Advanced civilizations probably
    have 10^50+ bits at their disposal and there is no way you are going
    to send even a fraction of that via spaceship or even a large array
    of lasers across interstellar distances (too much power required &
    too much beam spread). You are only going to be able to pull it
    off using large arrays when a developed civilization (e.g. MBrain)
    comes into contact with a suitable undeveloped solar system, e.g.
    one where the nanorobots can rapidly construct an array of receiving
    mirrors/telescopes and sufficient memory capacity to hold the incoming
    data.

    That is why I think the "diaspora" takes place very slowly -- it
    depends not on space ships expanding outward at 0.1c but on close
    encounters between star systems. Those are either very infrequent
    or very expensive to "arrange".

    Robert



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