Re: evolution and diet

From: I William Wiser (will@wiserlife.com)
Date: Thu Apr 24 2003 - 14:35:42 MDT

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    I'm not sure where nuts and starchy root vegetables (carrots,
    yams, potatoes) fit in. Are those in or out Paleodiet wise?
    Insects and organ meats are not a big part of the western
    diet anything else that might be good for us from a Paleodiet

    perspective?

    I don't hear anyone shouting against vegetables and I don't
    hear anyone shouting for saturated fat. Not a lot of people
    arguing for added sugar or highly processed foods. So, it's
    whole grains, legumes, and low-fat dairy verses higher levels
    of lean meats, fish and fruits. Both sides like fruit it's just a
    matter of how many calories. Both sides like lean meats and
    fish at least in moderation.

    Assume a 2000 calorie diet. Start with the agreeable parts
    of the food Pyramid (looked at from a "whats the best way to
    eat," not a "what can I get away with" perspective), all the
    vegetables you can eat, 3 or 4 ounces of fish many days a
    week, all the fruits you can afford calorie wise, some nuts
    and oils, 3 or 4 ounces of lean meat, occasional eggs.

    So the controversial part is about 1000 calories, 500 in
    whole grains, 200 in legumes and 300 in dairy (or other
    high calcium source). Paleodiet would say get rid of
    all (or most) of that junk and eat more lean meats, fish
    and fruit instead (maybe insects, organ meats, bones,
    eggs and root vegetables also). Am I getting this right?

    There are two questions I see here. Which diet has more
    and better balanced nutrients? That is easy enough to
    type into a diet analysis program. Which diet has the
    most of the most harmful substances? Something I would
    like to see added to diet analysis programs. In both cases
    the best we may be able to do is assume the beneficial and
    harmful substances we know about are representative
    enough to get the right answer.

    Which diet taste better and which makes people feel better
    sounds like a do it yourself exercise. Grains, legumes, and
    dairy are cheaper. I know grains, legumes and dairy do
    okay verses the RDA even at CR levels (be odd if the
    recommended diet did not supply the recommended
    nutrients). So which is more nutrient dense?

    The Paleodiet has more protein. The Pyramid has more
    carbohydrates and more fiber. The Pyramid has more

    calcium but when it comes to individual nutrients (and

    toxins) we can look at a lot of arguments about optimum

    levels, balance between nutrients etc. I suppose this sort

    of analysis is all an advocate of any diet theory can hope

    for. I'll get back with you when I get to typing the food

    into a diet analysis program (any recommendations for

    a good one, mine is old?)

     

    I can see an argument that if no obvious advantages or

    disadvantages can be found the Paleodiet is the more

    conservative approach. Probably not as convincing as

    the it's yummy and not know to be harmful argument.
    Both of these diets sound healthier than the way most
    people eat (except maybe the eggs and organ meats part).
    And they both sound healthier than the Atkins diet. ;-)



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