From: gts (gts_2000@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Apr 18 2003 - 09:51:16 MDT
Harvey Newstrom wrote:
> I don't accept or reject your conclusions. I reject your methods of
choosing your position
> as the default and saying the burden-of-proof is on someone else to prove
you wrong. I don't
> accept any unproven positions just because they haven't been proven wrong
yet.
You were harshly and unfairly criticizing one or two posts of mine, one in
which I was *asking* someone (mez) to consider taking my position on this
subject rather than imposing it on him, or one in which I was *agreeing*
with another person (Eliezer) who already holds a similar position. In
essence you were quoting me out of context with a fallacious argument rather
than considering all my arguments as a whole.
> I understand that evolution produced a lot of great things (like us
super-monkeys),
> but I thought we were trying to transcend beyond evolution.
Of course that is so Harvey, but we need first to be sure we are optimizing
the natural human genome with which we were born! Once we've done that, we
can start looking for ways to transcend the natural diet to which we are
adapted.
While in many respects we have far exceeded the capabilities of our
prehistoric ancestors, the archeological evidence from human remains is that
our physical health deteriorated at that time approximately 10-12 thousand
years ago when grains and dairy became significant parts of the human diet.
We became shorter, weaker and sicker. One might argue why this happened, but
not if it happened.
Modern medical science (e.g., antibiotics) has helped us reverse that
negative course somewhat but the timing of the setback was most suspicious
and seems to be related to the radical change in diet from the
Paleolithic/Mesolithic to the widespread use of agriculture and dairy in the
Neolithic. Even without recourse to evolution science it should be clear to
a nutrition savvy person like you that breads and dairy have relatively
little nutritional value in comparison to prehistoric foodstuffs like lean
meats, fruits and vegetables. Do you agree with this?
I have presented many arguments from evidence and theory that humans should
have been and in fact were healthier in prehistoric times than early
Neolithic times. It is only very recently (20th century) that our health has
begun to approach prehistoric levels, and this seems to be largely despite
the modern diet rather than because of it. And even with these health
improvements, mostly from modern medicine, we remain in the midst of an
unprecedented national health crisis in obesity and diabetes.
-gts
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