Re: Facts versus values

From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Fri Apr 11 2003 - 06:45:10 MDT

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    Hal Finney querried:
    <<As I watched these arguments (they don't even really deserve to be
    called debates - fights might be a better word), I kept wondering if
    there couldn't be a better way, some approach which would incorporate our
    Extropian values.  Even if the topics were not particularly Extropian,
    couldn't we at least go about things in a distinctive way?  Could we do
    something that said, this argument is among Extropians, people with a
    certain unique perspective.  Could these threads of discussion acquire
    traits which would distinguish them from the identical arguments about
    Iraq which could be found all over the web?>>

    1. Some of these web debates are with people who desire one's annihilation,
    or
        support those who do.

    2. Your post still assumes that people can agree on what the facts are.
    Witness Iraqi
        State television, right up to 24 before US Forces rolled in Paradise
    Square. This
        may not have been mere propaganda on the Iraqi' TV broadcasters' part.

    Actually, shared values tend to help people succeed in agreements, especially
    with negotiations, rather then "facts." If one can channel common values into
    a certain direction, one can then have a real chance of success, or progress
    then. As regards to how this would effect debate on this list, please refer
    to item one.

    Mitch



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